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  • umbrella
    13·
    11 months ago

    because its unmantained and will not get new features anymore, i dont expect new software and hardware to support it going forward.

    sent from gnome and x11!

    • CrypticCoffee
      2·
      11 months ago

      It doesn’t need new features and I’m pretty sure any bugs, vulnerabilities will still get ironed out. We both know Wayland will kill x11. The point is, considering we are both using x11, why should a new person from Windows need it now?

      In a few years, my position would be different, but for now, mileage varies and many face use cases it doesn’t yet cover. X11 is mature and mostly just works.

      • Salix@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        11 months ago

        The point is, considering we are both using x11, why should a new person from Windows need it now?

        Depends on their hardware. I use 4 monitors at:

        • 1440p 165hz (FreeSync)
        • 1440p 75hz
        • 1440p 75hz
        • 4k 60hz

        It works better on Wayland. Other users could be in a similar situation.

        iirc, you can’t use FreeSync with multi monitors on Xorg as well

      • umbrella
        13·
        11 months ago

        because its dying soon, no need to go all in on it now.

        neither of us will be using it. its already dead if your hardware doesnt include nvidia.

        • CrypticCoffee
          3·
          11 months ago

          No one is going all in, and once distros retire it, it’s dead. Jumping before distros because you have a rush of blood to the head isn’t particularly helpful.

          My hardware has no Nvidia, but getting screen recording on Wayland was a royal pain in the backside. Functionally, x11 just works better for me right now. When they iron this stuff out and make it effortless, great, but until then, the software still needs maturing.

          • umbrella
            14·
            11 months ago

            my point is that this kind of issue will be ironed out anyway and its looking like its gonna be sooner rather than later.

            i dont mind if you are already invested in using xorg and its working out for you (hey, i do too). i just dont see much reason to go into linux for the first time as a noob with it in mind at all.

            • CrypticCoffee
              4·
              11 months ago

              They don’t need to think about display servers. Just update and it will resolve itself. You’re overcomplicating things and scaring people away from Linux.

              • umbrella
                11·
                11 months ago

                thats what i said.

                except recommending unmantained software is bound to cause issues for a layman user, regardless of what it is.

                • CrypticCoffee
                  1·
                  11 months ago

                  Do you have evidence it is unmaintained?

                  Last commit years ago?

                  • umbrella
                    1·
                    11 months ago

                    it needs bits and bobs to keep working as is. last commit is an indicator but not a great one by itself.

                    it aint getting new support, and security patches are taking their sweet damn time. compare that with projects that support wayland. also take a look at what a lot of xorg devs have been working on.

                    my point this whole time is that a distro stuck on it will start to reflect that.

                    i feel like this isnt going anywhere so have a nice day.