• kronisk @lemmy.world
    24·
    6 months ago

    You’re getting downvoted to hell here, but you’re completely right. Punk was a cultural moment that was alive and relevant from the late 70s to early 80s, a kind of nihilistic tabula rasa that was codified into a “genre” after the fact. All of the original punk bands sounded different from each other, then from the early 80s onwards all new punk bands sounded the same. Bands like Green Day and Rancid were probably the last nail in the coffin.

    The spirit of what punk was lives on here and there in other expressions, but is rarely labeled as “punk”. If a band calls themselves punk rock today, they’re either doing some kind of museological work or they’re working for someone trying to sell you leather jackets. (HC should probably be considered as a separate movement altogether.)

    • StorminNorman@lemmy.world
      5·
      6 months ago

      Yeah, nah. There was a doco series like 4yrs ago. Ended with Henry Rollins going “everyone sys punk’s dead. It’s not. It’s still out there. It’s playing for a warm beer for each band member at some club. It’s playing some kids basement show” and as much as I don’t always agree with the guy, he’s not wrong… Like, I could rattle off 5 new punk bands to me this year. Could do more if I sat down and went through what I listened to, but those 5 stood out over an onslaught of electronica, metal, indie, etc. If you think the youth of today isn’t just as disaffected as the youth of the 70s, I have a bridge to sell you…

    • Pratai@lemmy.ca
      12·
      6 months ago

      I appreciate the reply. And might I ask if you also find it ironic that in disagreeing with the “punk” label, I’m being hive-mind downvoted by those defending the ideology and nomenclature of a movement that would stand against such behavior?

      It’s almost as if these kids don’t get it. Which kind of makes my point for me.

      • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
        2·
        6 months ago

        You’re trying to gatekeep people out of punk. Lots of people in punk scenes of any time period would give you shit for that.

        And sometimes if most people are disagreeing with you, it might be because you’re wrong and not a “hive mind”

      • StorminNorman@lemmy.world
        1·
        6 months ago

        Nah, this isn’t irony. Punk has always stood against misinformation. You would’ve been downvoted even harder back in the day.