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    So regardless of the subject you want our government in gridlock and our politicians to not get anything done. Got it.

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      1 year ago

      Nope. Please pack your ridiculous strawmen away. You’re sounding mighty Republican with your bad faith arguments.

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            If politicians don’t negotiate across the aisle when majorities in Congress are slim then nothing will get done.

            Did you or did you not imply that Fetterman shouldn’t negotiate?

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              I said that nothing good could come from pretending to negotiate immigration with radically anti-immigrant fascists who aren’t even PRETENDING to negotiate in good faith.

              Three things can result:

              1. No changes

              2. Changes for the worse and nothing else (by far the most likely)

              3. Tiny changes for the better on one or two very specific things in exchange for massive systemic change for the worse.

              You’re pretending that the GOP is a normal and legitimate political party rather than a fundamentally dishonest fascist movement.

              Is your name Neville? Because you’re being very Chamberlain right now

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                So again, you’re saying he shouldn’t negotiate with republicans which will result in nothing getting done.

                How is what I said a strawman?

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                  How is what I said a strawman?

                  By inferring that what I want is “nothing getting done”, when in reality I’ve been very clear that what I want is for things to not get worse.

                  When you give concessions to fascists, things get worse. STOP pretending that the GOP is a legitimate party operating in good faith.

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                    The GOP as a party supports fascism yes. But individual members of Congress are on a spectrum and can be influenced to vote in our best interests.

                    That’s why there are almost always some members that aren’t voting along their party lines. It’s happened like this since the inception of our government.

                    That’s why diplomacy is important.

                    Just look at how democrats won concessions from the house on the spending bill recently and made republicans look stupid in the process.

                    That happened because of diplomacy. Your approach would’ve resulted in a government shutdown instead.