• SeedyOne@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Today on Lemmy, which is dumber?

    -Distilling an entire presidency to what happens in proxy wars (the RU one admittedly being an amazing deal for the US against a long term adversary).

    -Voting third party in '20/'24

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      the RU one admittedly being an amazing deal for the US against a long term adversary

      You chickenhawks say the same things about every war. I remember 2003 when Iraq was going to last six months and cost 30 billion. “Mission Accomplished”. Back then you told us it was a bargain because Saddam had uranium.

      Voting third party in '20/'24

      What’s dumb is seeing 40 years of conservative outcomes and the progression of fascism under a Democratic president and then telling us to do more of it.

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        Ah, “Genocide bad, unless it happens to Ukrainians, who cares about them?”, a classic of “Both Sides!” fans.

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          Nope. Read it again.

          You missed the point.

          Then again, you chickenhawks just repeat what the news tells you to anyway, so maybe you shouldn’t read it again. I’d hate for you to get a headache.

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            Then again, you chickenhawks just repeat what the news tells you to anyway, so maybe you shouldn’t read it again. I’d hate for you to get a headache.

            Oh no. Not the news. How terrible, following the news. I wish I was enlightened enough to get my knowledge of world affairs through online games of Telephone rather than books and reputable news sources.

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            Nope. Read it again.

            So what is it?

            Support Ukraine in the war against Russia - or all wars are equally bad, only chickenhawks support wars?

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        Back then you told us it was a bargain because Saddam had uranium.

        I don’t remember this, care to provide some justification? The way I remember it is that Americans were tricked into being afraid of Saddam and his WMD and it was sold as a preemptive move to a bunch of people still reeling after the 9/11 attacks.

        Russia is actually a major adversary, this is not secret. They are also acting like aggressive imperialists. I would be hesitant to get boots on the ground, but helping Ukraine defend itself is both a win for us, and the right thing to do.

        I don’t see how they’re really comparable.

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          11 months ago

          Holy shit I’ve argued with you a few times, this comment is actually something I can totally agree on.

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        Back then you told us it was a bargain because Saddam had uranium.

        Nope, I was against that war before it ever started. Ukraine isn’t even close to the same situation.

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        the progression of fascism under a Democratic president

        Please explain your reasoning behind this statement and compare those outcomes to the alternative (voting republican)