Banning marijuana growing at home, increasing the substance’s tax rate and altering how those taxes get distributed are among vast changes Ohio Senate Republicans proposed Monday to a marijuana legalization measure approved by voters last month.

The changes emerged suddenly in committee just days before the new law is set to take effect, though their fate in the full Senate and the GOP-led House is still unclear.

The ballot measure, dubbed Issue 2, passed on the Nov. 7 election with 57 percent of the vote and it set to become law this Thursday, making Ohio the 24th state to legalize marijuana for adult recreational use. But as a citizen-initiated statute, the Legislature is free to make tweaks on it, of which they’re attempting plenty.

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    Politicians really hate democracy…

    Even in States where they get ballot initiatives, the politicians are always wanting to change the shit voters initiate and approve

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      And they have the public so disenfranchised that the public’ll just go “fucking politicians” and move on with their lives instead of grabbing the torch and pitchforks and showing these assholes what accountability for politicians used to look like in the old days. Perhaps show them why we don’t play by those rules anymore and why they shouldn’t inspire the public to continue playing by those old rules.

      Note: I am euphemistically edging towards tar and feathering more so than anything else. Anything nonlethal but severe in nature and consequence, that sort of thing.

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        Note: I am euphemistically edging towards tar and feathering more so than anything else. Anything nonlethal but severe in nature and consequence, that sort of thing

        FYI, having boiling tar painted on someone’s body resulted in death the vast majority of the time, either immediately or days/weeks later after excruiting pain.

        It’s just on TV it’s portrayed as a funny thing that happens to scoundrels who are completely fine even immediately after it happened.

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        Long ago, we decided that gathering to issue a formal redress of our grievances was an acceptable alternative to simply breaking down our ruler’s front doors and beating them to death in front of their families. These Republicans really want to go back to those days.

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          This needs putting on billboards, I’m fed up of bringing this to people’s attention. With a slight wording tweak, it’s applicable to a worldwide audience too.

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        Well, America elected FDR about 80 years ago mostly because he was going to do universal healthcare…

        Politicians from both parties told him they needed another couple years to crunch the numbers. The compromise was Social Security, but they added the income cap and told FDR his next term they’d expand it

        BTW: that cap is why Social Security is habitually underfunded.

        In FDRs second term, they told him the same thing. Then changed the rules so he couldn’t get a third.

        And today, 80+ years later, the president of America (who is a Democrat) and all the people in leadership positions for Dems are still saying it’s too soon and we need to wait a few more years.

        If you’re tired of people criticizing politicians from their own party, how about you go to the party where its tradition to never do that?

        Because if neither of the only two options are willing to do that, we’re all fucked.

        So I’m going to keep pointing out how “not a Republican” isn’t what we have to fucking settle for. Even if that is true in the 2024 presidential election.

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          What does any of that have to do with Republicans trying to subvert the ballot initiatives in Ohio? Which is what this post is about.

          My issue with what you are doing is that your comment here, and most of your other political themed comments elsewhere, are always taking aim at the democrats. Yes, there is a lot to be said about the current democratic party, what they haven’t done and perhaps more importantly what they have done, but in my albeit really quick scroll through your comments I don’t think I saw you actually talk about how Republicans are fucking shit up, only how democrats are failing.

          What democrats did 80 years ago on the federal level is completely irrelevant to what Republicans are doing right now on the state level in Ohio.

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            What democrats did 80 years ago on the federal level is completely irrelevant to what Republicans are doing right now on the state level in Ohio.

            That would make sense if they just did it once 80 years ago and haven’t spent Joe Bidens (almost) entire life continuously doing it…

            My issue with what you are doing is that your comment here, and most of your other political themed comments elsewhere, are always taking aim at the democrats

            Because if Dems become anymore like Republicans we have no chance left.

            Like, if two houses catch fire and ones already burnt to the ground, are you going to demand firefighters put the same effort into both? Or are you going to realize the priority is the one that can still be saved?

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          You’re being either disingenuous or simply repeating talking points.

          FDR and many other Democratic presidents have campaigned on and tried to create a robust universal healthcare plan. Congressional Republicans prevented it. Every time.

          In FDRs second term, they told him the same thing. Then changed the rules so he couldn’t get a third.

          If you’re talking about the 22nd Amendment, limiting presidents to two terms in office, that happened after FDR was elected four times, and died in office midway through his fourth term. And it’s yet another way to put a giant thumb on the scale in order to give regressionist shitheels more power than they should fairly command in US politics. (See also: Electoral College, Three-Fifths Compromise, the filibuster, gerrymandering.) Without that scale-tipping, US politics would be way more left now than it is.

          You should be more informed on history before citing it to support your preconceived ideas.

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            FDR and many other Democratic presidents have campaigned on and tried to create a robust universal healthcare plan. Congressional Republicans prevented it. Every time.

            If only Dems hadn’t had a single period where they had majorities of the House, Senate, and a dem.president sometimes in the last 80 years…

            What’s that? It happens pretty regularly but we never got universal healthcare? And it was even the situation during FDRs time in office?

            Man, you’d be making a good point if any of what you’re saying was true, too bad it’s not tho

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              FDR tried to implement mandatory medical insurance for the needy, funded by a payroll tax. Not “universal healthcare.” (I was incorrect on that above, because I was taking you on your word.) Truman wanted the same thing, but for everyone; this was decried as “socialist” (because we hate the Commies). Private insurance, doctors, hospitals all lobbied hard against it, as I’m sure they still do.

              https://pnhp.org/a-brief-history-universal-health-care-efforts-in-the-us/

              There’s also a nice chart here which shows who controlled the Presidency and each house of Congress since 1901. Under FDR, Democratic control handled the Great Depression and WWII. JFK dealt with the Cuban Missile Crisis and Johnson did civil rights and Medicare/Medicaid. Obama did the Affordable Care Act.

              Since you’re hyper-focused on universal healthcare, can you name any Republican expansion of access to healthcare in the US? Ever?

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                Since you’re hyper-focused on universal healthcare,

                I mean, did you need examples of Dems against legal cannabis while Joe Biden is in office?

                Did you want a giant list of everything voters want that “moderate” Dems oppose?

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                  Oh look! The goalposts have moved!

                  Can you name any Republican expansion of access to healthcare in the US? Ever?

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                    Wait, you complained about me being focused on healthcare, but you still want to talk about it?

                    Well. “Obamacare” ended up being a more conservative version of Mitt Romeny’s plan.

                    But if we’re only giving credit for what’s done (and I agree with that) then suddenly all the things that make neoliberals better than Republicans disappears.

                    I mean, the only recent expansion of healthcare by either party was when Dems passed the more conservative version of Romney’s plan

                    You’re making my point, the letter by someone’s name doesn’t mean much when majorities of politicians from both parties oppose progresss

                    There’s just some with a D by their name that try, but progressives are still a minority in their own party unfortunately

                    Edit:

                    Actually with a profile blurb like that, I don’t think any exchange will ever be productive…

                    I’m just going to use the block button, feel free to keep responding, I’ll never see it.

                    Just don’t have time for sovereign citizens who openly call for execution of politicians, even if they’re terrible politicians…

                    I think you’re doing that thing where people believe the right position is always halfway between D and R

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      Huh, I’ve got a weird sense of déjà vu

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        Yeah, lots of “moderate” Dems get really shitty when people point out that voters can want more than a D by someone’s name.

        That’s the type of attitude that brought us the modern Republican party lead by trump. Republicans don’t care how bad he is, just about the letter by his name.