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    11 months ago

    LEMMY is how I find out there’s a new hbomber video? Not my fucking YOUTUBE SUBSCRIPTION ALERTS??

    Thanks, Google!

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      My YouTube alerts come days after the actual video release dates. I’m not even sure how they manage to get it that delayed.

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        my people, check out Newpipe (Android, download through F-Droid) and Freetube (desktop) - your feeds will be chronological, no black-box suggestion algorithm. all videos from all your subscriptions will be shown to you (you can even group your subs to customize how they show up)

        you’ll avoid some of that surveillance capitalism

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    Laughing at one weird bald misogynist

    “Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?” - Blight

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    At half the video I knew the main culprit was about to be revealed, then he put the “contrapoints” lighting and I was like please don’t be contra, and he starts talking about how that person was stealing from smaller lgbtq creators and I was oh fuck, is contra, but then it was actually that guy I didn’t even knew existed and was a relief.

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      Given the amount of time between Contra videos, I would be really surprised if she was plagiarizing

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      11 months ago

      TBF James Somerton does often imitate the Contrepoints aesthetic.

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      I was also thinking Contra was involved, but when he pulled out the lighting I thought it was something someone had done to her. I’m very glad it just turned out to be Somerton, who failed the sniff test the first time he was recommended to me by the algorithm.

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    Looks like some people don’t get the meme here. The first domino refers to the first hbomb video against aurini. Please don’t make me explain the joke

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      It’s a long video posted by YouTube creator HBomberguy regarding plagiarism on YouTube. If you watch/listen to video essays on YouTube it’s worth a play.

      TL;DW- it’s a longstanding issue of ripping practically verbatim sections of other people’s work without proper sourcing. There were a few larger named channels put forth as evidence. I know at least one of the plagarist has since turned off comments on his videos.

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      From looking, his recent video is retreading drama that had happened over the last several months but OP is claiming bald man did all the work.

      I dunno about the other 2, but the iilluminautii segment in the video has been done dozens of times at this point and involved half a dozen creators that were direct associates of her bringing her down. But, nah, all bald man.

      edit: I forgot but she also partially took herself down by posting one of her editors notes containing suicidal ideation because of her in her video defending herself against that editor…

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        He covered at least 5 content creators, so it’s not just ‘the other two’. This is purely anecdotal as this was my personal experience.

        I definitely knew about the illuminati drama, but none of the others. I’ve seen video essays from every creator covered (except for Phillip) and had enjoyed having James S in the background in particular. It looks like he’s turned off all comments in his videos post plagiarism video. For the record I hadn’t seen any other hbomberguy videos prior to this.

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          Im gonna go on a bit of a logical leap here using current information regarding The Completionist. Karl Jobst and SomeOrdinaryGamers released their initial findings regarding the charity fraud in their own videos. As they have each found info that develops the situation, they release another video pointed at that specific information. Karl does a high level whereas Mutahar does deep dives so his videos take a couple days longer to emerge.

          In this instance, they are releasing one video pointing one finger at one issue at one creator rather than a 4 hour compilation at nearly half a dozen people covering dozens of complaints. Bald mans video, at the very least, has hallmarks of a compilation rather than any actual investigative value.

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            Did we watch the same video? Did you watch the video? I’m aware of the charity situation but that wasn’t referenced in the video.

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        If it started with him, then I guess the dominoes make sense - it wouldn’t be a claim that he did all the work, just set it in motion.

        I have no idea though, I am OOTL also and haven’t looked at the video yet.

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          Nah, I can absolutely confirm in at least one of those cases he is several months behind the curve and just tacking it on to pad video length.

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            I understood his video to be primarily calling out rampant plagiarism on YouTube. Illuminati was a small portion of the video and helped him convey the issue with content farms. Also, just because you’re aware of the issue doesn’t mean everyone else is.

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              Well yeah, hbomb is very well known for making short videos, so clearly he’s just trying to pad his runtime for views and that sweet, sweet ad revenue he’s making from these drama videos.

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            Should note that right at the beginning he jokes about how long it took them to get this video out (notes the writers’ strike as “ongoing”).

            Also, I knew none of this stuff. His long-form video essays are always a great watch because they aren’t shot out 5m after something happens and consist of mostly opinions.

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      Hbomberguy, after doing a video that deleted Tommy Tallarico by exposing a career of lies (even getting one of his world records removed in the process of research alone), put out a video discussing plagiarism where he, with receipts, showed Internet Historian, Illuminaughtii, and James Somerton conducted significant plagiarism. All 3 fan bases went feral over it. Somerton deleted his socials and lost a shitload of his patreon money and IH’s fans are having a Normal One.

      Somerton was the main focus of the video. He’s a gay man who created a series of video essays that are basically all entirely plagiarized word for word from dozens of other queer creators, pretty much straight up stealing money from them. Hbomb has dedicated all the revenue he makes from this video to be split between everyone somerton stole from, which hilariously includes Wikipedia.

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          In this case it’s not really discourse so much as plagiarizing minority voices and directly profiting off them. Hbomb describes how a Somerton patreon subscriber discovered him reading her own essay back at her uncredited. She was paying him to steal from her.

          Dude’s also a misogynist. When he isn’t stealing people’s words his original contributions frequently attack white women, and he’ll also misgender creators that he feels are “as bad as” women so he can attack them through the same lens.

          I feel like in discourse you need two sides and nobody is on this dude’s side.

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            get your point, I just can’t be bothered with internet personalities.

            The world is a horrible place, ik. I’m trying to change it irl rather than waste my energy online

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    The biggest scam podcasts. Half the history podcast are basically just reading out someone else’s book.

    I’m sure it doesn’t end there .

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      Yeah, so many times I’ll watch one and think ‘that’s an interesting topic I’ll watch another video on it’ but all the other videos cover exactly the same bits of information and often have the same thoughts and jokes.

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    I think I might be in love with hbomberguy. Though it’s hard to beat his Pathologic video, that one was incredibly special and I’ve seen it way too many times.

    By the way, did James officially react to this in any way yet?

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    I knew of the first two because their videos were everywhere and Illuminaughtii was sort of in the breadtube sphere. Never heard of James Somerton and it seems like I wasn’t missing anything.

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    Breadtubers who aggregate and present unified information is still legitimate content creation. People dont want to watch multiple 2hour long documentaries and read 10 articles. So if a breadtuber does that and condenses that into a 30min video, good for them. Improving citation is a legitimate point but ultimately not that important for most people.

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      It’s not condensing when it’s a) copying verbatim and b) not citing sources.

      It’s not an issue citation needing to be improved. It needs to exist at all. And the audience’s opinion on whether citation is important to them is a total non-issue. Their opinions don’t matter in this regard.

      You cite sources and give credit, or you don’t publish.

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      And I have nothing against that, as long as they are not trying to get me to believe that they did all the work themselves

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      Did you really watch all the incredibly flagrant horseshit in this video and come away with that?

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        probably they didn’t watch it if they are complaining about watching 2hour long documentaries, he probably needs a breadtuber to condense it for him

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          Well despite their recent claim that they watched it (which ironically came in a 4 hour length text wall response), it seems the point was handily missed, intentionally or otherwise.

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          I did watch it and it could have been condensed to 5minutes.

          Youtubers copy paste articles, videos and wikipedia. Should youtubers be held at a normal societal standard for copyright? He didnt have to go to all that detail about every single copypasted sentence that a random youtuber included in their video.

          And even in the end he says that he is fine with youtubers making videos of copypasting articles/wikipedia/other languages, because that makes that knowledge more accessible. So his only issue is with citation. And i would argue that an extensive citation would break the flow of a video, so i would be fine with a disclaimer saying “most of this content is copypasted or inspired from other sources, i am not intelligent”. Would he be ok with that? Is this about ego?

          Ultimately, noone has any original thought. We are all products of our environment. If i make a video about any subject, even if i dont literally copypaste something, what i will be saying is probably something that i read before. Even if i include some of my “own” ideas and opinions, those ideas and opinions are shaped by other people in the past.

          Humans are no different than chatgpt. We regurgitate previous input. Ultimately individuals are irrelevant, what matters is ideas and their spread. But since we live in an individualistic, capitalistic society, people go crazy over copyright. Who cares. Does any of the viewers of these videos really care whether the creator of the video is presenting “original” thought or copypasting a wikipedia article? I dont. I am just happy to be exposed to the information.