Who are you to tell others how to think? Asking them to apologize, are you serious? The level of self-righteousness and self-absorption in your attitude is worrying.
I’m not telling him what to think. I’m telling him he’s being a little coward, throwing the rock then hiding the hand.
So it’s up to him. Either he didn’t mean to be a horrible bigot, then he can apologize for it and we’re cool. Or he did, and then he has to own it.
I’m not telling him what to think. He’s free to be a bigot. God knows it’s a pretty widespread affliction. But he can’t deliberately engage in that kind of behavior and get away with equivocating hoping no one notices.
attitude is worrying
No, what is worrying is accepting that behavior in a public place. This is not, and will not be, the Nazi bar.
The whole concept of apologizing for opinions is just, well, wild. To me yes but I assure you to quite a lot of other people too. Not wanting to make this personal, but I would put money on a wager that you belong to a certain generation. One that, let’s say, is particularly certain of its moral rectitude and doesn’t put much stock in the value of free speech and the exchange of ideas.
I would take that money from you. I’m way older than you imply.
And no, you did not get it. The invitation to apologize was not for his thoughts/opinion. It was for his words if they did not match his thoughts. It’s customary, in many cultures, that if you do something hurtful but don’t mean it, you apologize.
What did I said and then tried to spin about? I never included skin color. You bring it there. I’m not gonna sorry because you understand my sentences wrong.
I’m not a native speaker either. In fact, this is my third language. I have no desire to keep doing this. Read what you wrote up thread carefully, then consider whether that’s a nice thing to type about millions of people you have never met.
I’m not happy about accusing millions of people either. However, I have experienced all my life what religion can do to countries or people when it finds a gap. Especially in a religion like Islam, which is not as neutralized as other religions.
I am aware that what all I said were cruel, unfair and racist. But I don’t regret it.
I’m from Turkey. If my ancestors were cruel like me, rather than tolerant like you; We wouldn’t be governed by a right-wing, sharia-supporting government right now.
You’ll probably don’t believe, but we used to as secular as France 25 years ago. Then these people found a gap, tricked “human rights supporters” and “LGBT” people and got supported by them. Yes, Erdogan was literally pro-LGBT back then.
Anyways, end of story, they slowly boiled us just like the frog in the pan. Unfortunately, I see this pattern in Europe as well.
Who are you to tell others how to think? Asking them to apologize, are you serious? The level of self-righteousness and self-absorption in your attitude is worrying.
I’m not telling him what to think. I’m telling him he’s being a little coward, throwing the rock then hiding the hand.
So it’s up to him. Either he didn’t mean to be a horrible bigot, then he can apologize for it and we’re cool. Or he did, and then he has to own it.
I’m not telling him what to think. He’s free to be a bigot. God knows it’s a pretty widespread affliction. But he can’t deliberately engage in that kind of behavior and get away with equivocating hoping no one notices.
No, what is worrying is accepting that behavior in a public place. This is not, and will not be, the Nazi bar.
The whole concept of apologizing for opinions is just, well, wild. To me yes but I assure you to quite a lot of other people too. Not wanting to make this personal, but I would put money on a wager that you belong to a certain generation. One that, let’s say, is particularly certain of its moral rectitude and doesn’t put much stock in the value of free speech and the exchange of ideas.
I would take that money from you. I’m way older than you imply.
And no, you did not get it. The invitation to apologize was not for his thoughts/opinion. It was for his words if they did not match his thoughts. It’s customary, in many cultures, that if you do something hurtful but don’t mean it, you apologize.
It’s not hard.
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I thought he called me a zoomer. Oh well, just goes to show how far you get with platitudes.
Anyway, not a boomer. I accept PayPal and Venmo.
What did I said and then tried to spin about? I never included skin color. You bring it there. I’m not gonna sorry because you understand my sentences wrong.
Why are we taking about skin color? Why do you keep bringing up skin color?
Maybe just well since sorry understand very hard.
Alright. Let’s start from the beginning. I’m not a native speaker, so I may not understood you. Sorry about that lol 😅
So, what do you want me to sorry about?
I’m not a native speaker either. In fact, this is my third language. I have no desire to keep doing this. Read what you wrote up thread carefully, then consider whether that’s a nice thing to type about millions of people you have never met.
Good luck.
I’m not happy about accusing millions of people either. However, I have experienced all my life what religion can do to countries or people when it finds a gap. Especially in a religion like Islam, which is not as neutralized as other religions.
I am aware that what all I said were cruel, unfair and racist. But I don’t regret it.
I’m from Turkey. If my ancestors were cruel like me, rather than tolerant like you; We wouldn’t be governed by a right-wing, sharia-supporting government right now.
You’ll probably don’t believe, but we used to as secular as France 25 years ago. Then these people found a gap, tricked “human rights supporters” and “LGBT” people and got supported by them. Yes, Erdogan was literally pro-LGBT back then.
Anyways, end of story, they slowly boiled us just like the frog in the pan. Unfortunately, I see this pattern in Europe as well.
Yes, in Italy, led by far right Christian traditionalists, removing parenting right from gay couples.
Christianity can be as restrictive as Islam, if used by the wrong people.