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- brainworms@lemm.ee
- cross-posted to:
- brainworms@lemm.ee
Biden seeks to “allow for the transfer of all categories of defense articles,” his request states
The White House has formally requested the removal of restrictions on all categories of weapons Israel is allowed to access from U.S. weapons stockpiles in the country, as I reported in detail for The Intercept today. So you know I’m not exaggerating, here’s a screenshot of the request:
The request would also remove nearly all other limits on Israel’s ability to access the U.S. weapons stockpiles — permanently —by doing the following:
Yeah, it’s been “hold your nose and vote for the least insane” for a long time now, but more the choice is “the guy who supports genocide” or “the guy who really really supports genocide.”
Fucking two party first post the post bullshit. This is going to get Trump elected when the people who cant bear to vote for genocide stay home or vote third party.
If Israel is your issue, you’re going to have to find another differentiator… like how Trump wants to end democracy as we know it and Biden does not.
That’s what I’m saying. I’m just heartbroken that I’ll have to vote for someone unapologetically funding genocide with my tax money.
What’s the fucking point of democracy if I still have to vote for genocide in order to avoid the end of “democracy.”
More than 15,000 people dead with money generated from mine and your labor, that’s enough of a differentiator for me. People call me naive for having convictions but legitimately believe “dEmoCrAcY iS In daNGeR”
Sorry you’re too passive to fight for it sweaty
In this case fighting for it means voting for Trump tho…? I don’t think he would have done better in this situation. Do you?
Again everyone in here is comparing these hypothetical situations that have been built up by fear mongering and media to actual human deaths that are happening right now that can be stopped at any point, more than half of them women and children. Fighting for it does not mean voting for trump, activism is not filling out a Scantron that you got in your mailbox.
Ok, so what should we be doing?
First grow a conscience, then listen to it, then just fucking Google shit I don’t care. How can I help Palestinians in need? What pressure can I be placing on my local government to speak with my voice in the Federal government? What pressure can I be putting on the glorious DNC to not run Biden as their pick? What political groups in my area need active members and funding? The fucking history of what led to the concentration camp that is Gaza in general. Literally any amount of effort.
Adding before you say anything, my tone is hostile because people say “what can I be doing?” Not with the intention of actually listening to any of it or doing fucking any of it but to try to catch me in some kind of gotcha where all my statements are irrelevant because I can’t do your job for you. I’m just a little bit mad about paying to turn innocent people into dead bodies.
So, with all this energy, what have you done?
And there’s the follow up gotcha, you’re an absolute child. I do what I do and that’s my business, I don’t need to give you my CV. I’ll say this, I’m not sitting in my own shit like an infant and moralizing to people who actually give a fuck.
Imagine broadcasting your actions against the empire on a public internet forum.
That’s why I’m writing in Afroman; I don’t pencilwhip colonizers
Implying burgerland was ever a democracy.
The Democratic National Convention of August, 1968 was in Chicago. It was marked by massive riots, after the April and June assassinations of the Rev Martin Luther King Jr and Democratic POTUS candidate Robert Kennedy, respectively. It was triggered by many issues, including anti-Vietnam War sentiment.
Interestingly, the August, 2024 DNC will be in Chicago. Maybe it’s time for the people of the United States to come together for another “year that breaks America”, and fight for the need to eliminate the DNC/RNC corporate stranglehold and work toward establishing a ranked voting system.
Or we could continue to choose between happy uncle fascist or bloated grifter fascist.
Yup. It’s getting more difficult every election cycle. I’m highly thinking of sitting it out this time. I can’t, with a clear conscious, vote for either of these two.
Yeah, you sure show em. Sitting out. Rebel.
Fucking dumb take.
Says the guy with the depopulation username.
Yeah, you sheeps are what’s fucking up this country. Go fall in line, shut up and vote. Fuck outta here with your bullshit.
lol, sheep. Vote third-party, but for gods sake vote
That’s the best idiots like you can do, poke fun of people’s grammar while the country is fucking burning. Take that grammer and shove it somewhere to boost your ego a bit more.
I was more laughing at you unironically calling people you don’t agree with sheep; it makes you sound like an angsty teen which your reply has just cemented. Baaaa
Ok cool. Now shut up, fall in line and vote like a removed. Don’t waste my time.
It’s important to at least go to the polls and do something, even if you won’t vote for most Democrats.
Even a Maoist knows that ballot initiatives and referendums exist independent of candidates and parties. I’m a Communist, and while I will not vote for Joe Biden, I do plan on voting for some local Democrats (not that I’m implying you should). It is better to show up and submit a blank ballot than to do nothing at all.
*conscience
To be fair I don’t know that I want to be clearly conscious for this election cycle, or for what come after.
Yeah, fuck your grammar/English/vocabulary bullshit. It doesn’t add anything to the conversation nor does it fix the shit America is in right now. Take it somewhere where it matters, not here.
What it adds to the conversation is that you’re a fucking idiot and you should be aware of it.
Ok cool.here is a trophy 🏆 Now go fuck off and die.
That guy you replied to is an actualcunt by the looks of it. He got very mad at a copypasta. And continued being mad.
There are a ton of fuckers on the Internet
Just vote third party if neither major party suits you. At least that way you’re communicating that neither major party is acceptable, and if enough people do that, it’s possible the major parties will adjust their policies.
Regardless, sign up for mail voting so you don’t have to wait in line. That way you can throw your vote away like me in the comfort of your own home, and then drop it off at a ballot box at your convenience.
Might do that, but there is no fucking way I’m voting for Biden or Trump.
Same. I voted third party before Trump proved to be insane, and I’ll do it again.
I’m thinking either Mariann Williamson or West
I’m the opposite, after reading a few profiles, I’m excited to see what Lars Mapstead has to say. He seems reasonably moderate compared to the rest running for the Libertarian nomination, so maybe he’d be okay. I hope Spike Cohen runs as well.
I’m also interested to see what Marianne Williamson has to say, but I’m not a fan of several of her proposals, though I like a number of them as well. I want to watch her debate so I can get a feel for which proposals she’s going to base her campaign around.
I’m not a fan of Cornel West whatsoever, though I’ll give him a chance to convince me. I think he’ll just steal votes from the Dem nominee (he’s running independent, no), which means Trump gets a better shot, but I guess we’ll see if that’s a thing.
All in all, I’m not liking this year’s roundup. But as long as Trump loses, I’m happy.
How fucking dare you think and decide for yourself. The fucking herd is going to eat you alive. You HAVE to fall in line, shut up and vote for whatever democrat is the nominee, it doesn’t matter if they’re a terrible fucking candidate, they’re not a Republican and that’s all that matters, right?. They’re going to downvote you to death not knowing that downvoting doesn’t mean shit on Lemmy. Fucking good for you for having a god damn brain. I honestly have so much respect for people like you who are not sheep.
Yup, same happened on Reddit as well. It’s like me not wanting to vote for the Democrat automatically means I like the Republican. That’s stupid.
I really dislike both major parties, and the vote spread in my area is such that it really doesn’t matter who I vote for, so I see no point in voting for a candidate I dislike. If Democrats want me to vote for them, they need to improve their policies. It’s really that simple.
third party
I did vote for the green party last time. Might do it again, because fuck both Dems and Republicans.
Yup, I’ll be voting third party. I gave Biden my vote last election, but he hasn’t earned it this coming election. It doesn’t really matter though since my state is going to vote R regardless, but at least this way I don’t be supporting nonsense.
Look, I hate the situation we’re in, but it’s Biden or a fascist that literally wants to destroy democracy in America. Read up on Project 2025. The Republicans are gearing up to destroy the IRS, Department of Education, FDA, EPA, make being LGBT illegal, ban abortion nationwide, and essentially bring back segregation in schools through education vouchers.
Keep voting Democrat or we’ll no longer have any semblance of freedom.
Earn it. If you can’t, or worse, if you won’t, then death to you.
This right here. People are fed the fuck up with being treated as bait for the fascist industrial complex.
As I said, it doesn’t matter who I vote for, the R candidate will get >60% of the vote and the D candidate will get 25-35%. Even if every third party vote went to the D candidate, they’d still be short by like 20%. If it was close at all (say, within 10%), I’d get your point, but that’s just not happening in my state.
So no, I’m not falling for that “a vote for X is a vote for Y” nonsense. I voted for Biden once because Trump was that bad and disliked in my state, but he won by >20%, which just proves how useless it is. So I’ll be voting third party again now that Biden has lost even my small, symbolic gesture.
I’m honestly okay with a bit of that, such as:
But I disagree with enough of it to matter:
Regardless, voting for Democrats won’t solve any of that. My state will elect Republicans to every position that matters. That’s a fact of life, and it’s probably more likely for my state to flip to a third party than to flip Democrat. So voting Democrat only makes sense if the candidate is actually strong enough to pull Republicans voters, and Biden ain’t it.
So no, I’m not voting Democrat because that’s not going to solve anything. I’ll vote Democrat if the candidate is good, otherwise I’ll be voting third party to signal to my state that I’d rather throw my vote away than vote for either major party, maybe they’ll actually care enough to pivot their platform a bit.
lol. Ok bud. You’re not voting Democrat because you’re a right wing nut. Gone are the days of “everyone is entitled to their opinion” when one party literally tried to overthrow the government and wants to bring an end to democracy. Do I wish it was another candidate more liberal than Biden? Heck ya, but voting for Trump or 3rd party is basically voting against democracy.
If you can’t do better than Biden, then I want to watch as everything you care for burns to the ground. I already have nothing to lose. Fascism has already been in every hood I lived in for the past 30+ years of my life, and for a century more past that; but these NIMBY liberal peckerwoods expect me to waste my vote upholding the democracy they get to live in? Tuh!
I don’t want a more liberal candidate than Biden, I want a better candidate. Biden doesn’t have the mental acuity to lead a country, and his VP doesn’t have his back. They were literally my two least favorite candidates on the DNC ticket in 2016 (Harris was dead last), yet they’re the ones who got nominated.
That said, Trump is decidedly worse. But that doesn’t make Biden good by comparison, nor does it change who my state will vote for. Trump was last in the Republican primary in my state in 2016 (even Kasich beat him), and was challenged by an independent who got >20% of the vote, yet he still won by nearly 20% (I’m in Utah). In the perfect storm that was 2016, Trump could’ve lost my state if Dems voted for the independent, but there was no way those independent voters would’ve voted for Clinton (there was no mathematical way for McMullin to win since he wasn’t on the ballot in most states). In 2020, Trump won with a typical >20% spread (usually it’s ~30%, so his win was much narrower than usual). If 2024 is close, the R candidate will win by 10-20%. It literally doesn’t matter who I vote for, the R candidate will win.
So no, Biden is not getting my vote because he hasn’t earned it. Trump is worse, but there’s no chance the R candidate is going to lose Utah, even if it is Trump, so I feel like the election won’t be so close that voting the lesser of two evils will mean anything. So I’ll probably vote third party again, but I’m not sure which party that’ll be (it doesn’t really matter, third parties get like 5% maximum combined). That said, my mind is never 100% made up until the election actually happens. If Biden gets meaningful immigration reform done (e.g. increased quotas, path to a visa for undocumented workers, etc), maybe he’ll earn it, but I think he needs to change his running mate because Harris is awful.
Keep voting Democrat and we’ll no longer have any semblance of freedom.