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      Plenty of centrist liberals support Israel’s “war against Hamas”. US president Joe Biden and the Democratic party for example.

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        that has nothing to do with the ideology of centrism itself and would be ridiculous to even pretend so.

        it has to do with the complexity of the situation, and more specifically for everyone supporting Israel, having to do with maintaining country relations moreso than the edit: humanist ideals unfortunately.

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        If specifics are needed, Tim Pool (like most of these people) claims to be centrist… Yet always fails into line with the right on everything.

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          Ah, Tim isn’t that bad, a guy doen’t think he’s a centrist is probably very, very far left.

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            You’re right on half of that, but on what issue does he meaningfully align with the left? Like I said, he seems to fall right into line with the right on everything - outside the shallowest veneer.

            I’m a centrist - both sides are bad - exclusively lists things the Democrats are doing.

            I don’t support the Republicans - but agrees with everything they’re doing.

            It’s a great way to feel as though you’ve risen above partisanship and form your own opinions like a special smart boy - as you’re led straight to right-wing positions on every issue.

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              Haven’t listened to him in a long time, but he definitely did not use to align Republican, disagreeing with Democrats horseshit isn’t the same thing.

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                He certainly shifted right over time, but I don’t think he could have ever fairly been called a centrist.

                Disagreeing with the Democrats doesn’t make you right-wing (I disagree with them on most things because I’m pretty far left - condemning the Democrats exclusively (other than the vaguest possible 'I don’t agree with the republicans) while near-universally agreeing with the positions of the GOP makes you right-wing.

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                  Is he exactly agreeing with what they say or what they do? Unfortunately that’s a real big difference.

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                    All of the above.

                    Can you name anything Pool has agreed with the Democrats on (and disagreed with the conservative/reactionary/magat line) - words or actions in the last 2 years?

                    I’m sure we can find something - but you could say that if most conservative voters. The relative difficulty proves my point.