• wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world
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    “Now we have to see how we are going to get them back. It is clear that the war option is not a solution.”

    If more people actually read instead of knee-jerk reacting to click-bait headlines they might have a better understanding of what is going on around them.

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          Yeah, since New Zeeland became an indepent nation there really hasn’t been any proper fallback if anything happens to Wales…

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          There was nobody living there before the British arrived, but after the British arrived British people moved there. It seems to me that the only country with a good claim, is Britain

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            Actually the first colonists were French. The claim was transferred to Spain via a pact between the Bourbon kings of both countries. The Spanish name for The Falklands derives from the French, Îles Malouines, named after Saint-Malo/Sant-Maloù.

            The Argentinians only ever occupied the islands for six months, for a penal colony - which ended via mutiny, not military expulsion. They’ve otherwise been under continuous British occupation since 1833, barring the 1982 war.

            I’m English, and by no means pro-English colonialism, but the Argentine claim is spurious nonsense.

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              According to Wikipedia, The French and English colonized two separate islands within months of each other, though the French are credited with being there first. Historians apparently disagree on whether or not the two settlements knew the other was there for the first year.

              The English have the longest claim that was never relinquished, since the French gave their settlement to Spain years after the French and English set up the original two colonies.

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                Why do you keep posting this link? It’s not convincing anybody of the validity of an Argentine claim, it’s presumptuous of you to assume people haven’t read it, and it doesn’t back up a number statements you’ve made (“The UN asked Great Britain to give the island back to Argentina, but they refused.” for instance).

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                  Why do you keep posting this link?

                  Because most people are just saying stuff that is not true, which the link corrects.

                  It’s not convincing anybody of the validity of an Argentine claim

                  If you read their comments that I reply to with that link, the facts documented contradicts what they are saying, and hence, may convince people of the validity of the claim.

                  it’s presumptuous of you to assume people haven’t read it

                  Not if I see people getting facts wrong its not.

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                    Because most people are just saying stuff that is not true, which the link corrects.

                    But you’re often just commenting the link, which puts the onus on the person you’re replying to to read the entire Wikipedia page in order to decipher what you’re contesting. Kind of like assigning homework. Again, presumptuous.

                    If you read their comments that I reply to with that link, the facts documented contradicts what they are saying, and hence, may convince people of the validity of the claim.

                    Unlikely. People won’t put in the work to decipher you, so it’s a poor methodology for convincing anyone.

                    Not if I see people getting facts wrong its not.

                    You’ve also got facts wrong, as mentioned above.

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            Not true, it was sparcely populated and in 1831 an American warship raided the area dissolved the government and rolled back out. 1833 the English come back and claimed the island and the dispute keeps on.

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      Yeah because it would be such a great Idea just to straight up say :“I’m going to attack you. But please don’t prepare or anything. Just act surprise.”