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Of course this has nothing to do with the music festival in particular but I’m guessing your point is more that they’ve at least at some point used (or “faced claims” about using) huma shields? I would’ve imagined we’d much more recent cases to make that point though.
While we’re at it, we might just as well declare every 9/11 victim a US “human shield,” too.
Frankly, Bin Laden’s justification why killing US civilians was justified sounds very similar to justifications of hard line Israeli politicians why civilian getting killed in Gaza don’t deserve any sympathy and were “asking for it”. Both boil down to, “they voted for the people in charge who do crimes against us, so they are guilty as well.”
It’s amazing how quickly contrived propaganda terms like “human shields” loses any meaning when they are flipped around on people western media hasn’t marked for genocide, eh?
The IDf operates behind every civilian in Israel - which means every civilian in Israel is a “human shield” for the Israeli state.
That’s an interesting take on it. I don’t think that’s how the idea of human shield is usually viewed. It’s usually more direct, operating from a place with civilians so you don’t get bombed or literally forcing someone to stand between you and your enemy or something.
While we’re at it, we might just as well declare every 9/11 victim a US “human shield,” too.
That’s an interesting take on it. I don’t think that’s how the ideapure propaganda of human shield is usually vieweddeployed for the consumption of Israeli-loving white supremacists.
Again… if that is what Hamas has (supposedly) done, then there is no reason not to designate every civilian in Israel, the US or any NATO member state as “human shields” as well.
Pick your propaganda and stop being a hypocrite about it.
I find it interesting that you can’t give a straight answer to whether you believe they’ve used human shields or not. I think it’s undeniable they’ve done that.
then there is no reason not to designate every civilian in Israel, the US or any NATO member state as “human shields” as well
I’m sorry but that doesn’t make sense. A human shield has an actual meaning, it’s not just all civilians in general.
Pick your propaganda and stop being a hypocrite about it.
Indeed. I’m pretty straightforward in that I condemn the use of human shields, full stop.
I find it interesting that you can’t give a straight answer
This is as straight as it gets, genius - I’m not the one buying into white supremacist propaganda… you are.
A human shield has an actual meaning
The only “meaning” it has is the one assigned to it by white supremacist propaganda and the white supremacists swallowing this propaganda.
I think it’s undeniable they’ve done that.
So you admit that 9/11 was an entirely justified attack? You know… as the US was (and still must be) using every civilian in the US as “human shields”?
I’ll have to ask you to explain what you think I’m implying. You might’ve misunderstood me, since I don’t think I’ve said anything that could be taken for “disingenuous and disgusting”.
Maybe Israel should stop using music festival attendees as “human shields…” that would be nice.
If they were operating behind the music festival then absolutely. Nobody should be using human shields.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3650791.stm
I was wondering why a link to BBC News didn’t have HTTPS. Well…
Of course this has nothing to do with the music festival in particular but I’m guessing your point is more that they’ve at least at some point used (or “faced claims” about using) huma shields? I would’ve imagined we’d much more recent cases to make that point though.
The IDf operates behind every civilian in Israel - which means every civilian in Israel is a “human shield” for the Israeli state.
While we’re at it, we might just as well declare every 9/11 victim a US “human shield,” too.
Frankly, Bin Laden’s justification why killing US civilians was justified sounds very similar to justifications of hard line Israeli politicians why civilian getting killed in Gaza don’t deserve any sympathy and were “asking for it”. Both boil down to, “they voted for the people in charge who do crimes against us, so they are guilty as well.”
It’s amazing how quickly contrived propaganda terms like “human shields” loses any meaning when they are flipped around on people western media hasn’t marked for genocide, eh?
That’s an interesting take on it. I don’t think that’s how the idea of human shield is usually viewed. It’s usually more direct, operating from a place with civilians so you don’t get bombed or literally forcing someone to stand between you and your enemy or something.
How exactly?
Fixed that for you.
You don’t think Hamas has used human shields?
Again… if that is what Hamas has (supposedly) done, then there is no reason not to designate every civilian in Israel, the US or any NATO member state as “human shields” as well.
Pick your propaganda and stop being a hypocrite about it.
I find it interesting that you can’t give a straight answer to whether you believe they’ve used human shields or not. I think it’s undeniable they’ve done that.
I’m sorry but that doesn’t make sense. A human shield has an actual meaning, it’s not just all civilians in general.
Indeed. I’m pretty straightforward in that I condemn the use of human shields, full stop.
This is as straight as it gets, genius - I’m not the one buying into white supremacist propaganda… you are.
The only “meaning” it has is the one assigned to it by white supremacist propaganda and the white supremacists swallowing this propaganda.
So you admit that 9/11 was an entirely justified attack? You know… as the US was (and still must be) using every civilian in the US as “human shields”?
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Because it’s just as disingenuous and disgusting to imply as what you’re implying.
I’ll have to ask you to explain what you think I’m implying. You might’ve misunderstood me, since I don’t think I’ve said anything that could be taken for “disingenuous and disgusting”.