• keardap@lemmy.selfhost.quest
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    1 year ago

    This is misleading interpetion of the video. The gun were not plannted, this is your bias, there is a possibility they were planted.

    Go watch it for your self.

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      1 year ago

      Aric Toler from the NYT has done good coverage on the IDF’s “reporting” from al-Shifa so far. This entire thread is worth a read: https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1725174435747922364?t=ozmINOki_Nq9xm74fJogIw&s=19

      In the original video, the IDF claims they found a single gun behind the MRI machine. When the journalists walk through, multiple guns are clearly visible. Nevermind that, in a functioning hospital (like al-Shifa was not too long ago), putting any metal near an MRI machine is extremely dangerous. See also:

      The BBC visited the MRI building of the Shifa hospital as well. It mentions that a laptop had photos and videos of hostages [according to the IDF, taken after their kidnap]. The photo that was on display (and later redacted when the IDF re-posted the video) was a publicly available image of Ori Megidish

      The IDF officer mentioned that there was “no shortage” of medical supplies when rifling through some objects in an MRI room. These are the medical supplies he was referring to: some medical masks and something like Icy-Hot.

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        1 year ago

        Again, you show misinterpretation of the situation.

        Planted guns = they weren’t in the hospital and brought in by IDF.

        If some random IDF soldier found another gun hidden inside the hospital and added it to the cache -> not planted.

        As the evidence doesn’t show which of the two cases happen, you don’t know that the gun is planted.

        If you jump to that conclusion, you are biased.

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          1 year ago

          Israel did this whole schtick to show journalists around. The implication being “this is what we found at the hospital as we found it” not “hey give us a few hours to do set design to maximize outrage”

          Frankly, no sane person would willingly store guns (made of metal!) near an MRI machine anyway.

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            1 year ago

            Hamas is a religious organization, sanity is not included.

            Jokes aside, the foot soldier, the person that acutually stored the gun there may have no idea how MRI works, or dropped them in panic, trying to masquerade as a civilian.

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              1 year ago

              But… Why?

              Supposedly, Hamas has oodles of tunnels under al-Shifa. What’s the point in putting weapons in the one place where it’s most dangerous?

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                1 year ago

                Maybe not everyone is welcome in the tunnels. Maybe they were sealed. Maybe someone had to carry something in a hurry. Maybe someone misunderstood a command.

                Not everything has a point. I can think of three stupid reasons on the spot for why the MRI room:

                1. The room was empty when a fleeing militant wanted to change clothes.
                2. MRI rooms are mostly empty, so it was easy to show the weapons cache in there.
                3. A militant on the ground thinking no one will search for guns in an MRI room because of the magnets.

                There are many possible explanation, it could be a room picked at random. It is possible we will get an answer in the future, and it possible we will never know.

                But replace MRI with any other type of hospital room and it raises questions, ‘why there!’.

                Why in the operation room, why in the morgue, why in the intensive care unit, why in the cleaning room, why in the toilet.

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                  1 year ago

                  In none of those other places are your weapons at risk of spontaneously discharging or detonating. It’s not even close to comparable.