Please don’t force Linux as a religious zealot forces their way on other people. Some like it, some are in the fence and some will never use it for wherever personal reason.
If they are specifically dissatisfied with the way Windows is working and will always work and feel up to try to modify it to work less shitty they are probably exactly the group that should switch to Linux or pony up the money for a Mac.
I’ve used Linux for years but always come back to Windows because I’ve never had a completely perfect distro, even the first party stuff. I already dick around with software at work and hardware at home. The last thing I want is to spend another dozen hours figuring out why copy/paste stopped working and how I go about fixing that on a forum from 2006.
And now you’ve gone from ‘Install an alternate OS’ to ‘Buy a new computer that supports an alternate OS’.
We get it. Linux exists. I doubt there is a single Lemmy user who is unaware that Linux is a thing. We are already using it or have valid reasons to not be using it.
Takes 5 minutes to try a live session. Not much more time then you spent on this thread. Less time than you spent on Netflix watching a episode of this or that.
And now you’ve gone from ‘Install an alternate OS’ to ‘Buy a new computer that supports an alternate OS’.
This is kind of intellectually dishonest don’t you think? It both ignores the fact that Linux runs on the majority of hardware and invites us to pretend that Linux users are constantly buying random windows machines and hoping they work. It’s nice that Linux supports so much hardware that you can pick a random machine and have it probably work well but if you do decide to use on your PC logically when you do buy a new machine its apt—pun intended—to be something you picked explicitly because it’s supported.
The question is really just a question of whether the user prefers one environment or the other.
Given that you managed to miss what I said, I’ll reiterate: I know about Linux. Pretty-much everyone here knows about Linux. Evangalising about Linux is not useful. I’ve been running it, and making my living off my knowledge of Linux for over 25 years. At home, I have four computers and three of them exclusively run variants of Linux.
This is kind of intellectually dishonest don’t you think? It both ignores the fact that Linux runs on the majority of hardware and invites us to pretend that Linux users are constantly buying random windows machines and hoping they work.
No. You literally said “Nope I just buy supported hardware and software that works without difficulty which I’ve been doing since 2003.” in response to the very valid issue raised that Windows has better hardware support. I personally happen to disagree with that statement, I think the hardware support for older hardware in particular is much better in Linux than Windows. But for newer hardware, Windows drivers come before Linux drivers for very obvious reasons.
I also need to use Windows for work. My primary workstation runs Windows. This isn’t a matter of preference. There are many valid reasons for running Windows. And because of that, this headline is relevant to many people here.
I actually use Linux on everything other than my work computer due to needing a few programs that absolutely will not work on Linux and do not have Linux alternatives.
Until you can’t game at 4k, 120hz, with an HDR high resolution display.
But, from the most recent time I tried it:
Display scaling doesn’t always work (150% UI). 2x worked fine, it is supposed to work fine with wayland, but wayland didn’t seem to like nvidia drivers.
Many anti cheats don’t work.
WoW didn’t work (though it should based off the wine compatibility reviews).
Bluetooth had issues (didn’t reconnect on startup I think).
While I’d love to change to linux, every time it’s always been inferior for my personal use cases. As windows gets worse, and linux gets better, eventually the time will come when I switch. But for a great many people, the support simply isn’t there yet.
I don’t get why Linux users don’t understand that they are part of like a 1% bubble. 99% of people would not enjoy Linux. I’m a Pop Os user myself and seeing what I have to do sometimes to get simple everday things to work that work right out of the box in Windows and MacOs is rediculus. No normie would ever figure out what to do even when googling. Linux is an exclusive Pc enthusiast operating system. Even the beginner friendly distros are not “dump proof” enough for the regular person. There is no use in advocating it on every problem post from Windows or MacOs. You’re doing no one a favor with it.
Its actually more like 2.x% and its a lot higher in some segments like developer. The fact that the most popular phone OS on the planet is based on Linux is trivial proof that you can make an experience that is desirable and usable by the majority of people based on the same technology.
That said android isn’t really that simple if you come to it there is actually plenty of complexity both in terms of interfaces that vary between manufacturer and features. If we were to consider for instance Linux Mint running cinnamon I wouldn’t say the complexity of Mint/Cinnamon is higher than android.
I will do whatever it takes for my non-European windows install to behave like a European windows install.
If I got rid of ads on windows if be much happier with the OS and would not have such a grudge against using it.
I can’t wait until benchmarks are run on the two versions side by side to see if it impacts battery life and or performance.
If you used Linux your OS wouldn’t be trying to subvert your well being by casually manipulating you while you are just trying to get shit done.
Please don’t force Linux as a religious zealot forces their way on other people. Some like it, some are in the fence and some will never use it for wherever personal reason.
Proud mint user here, don’t get me wrong
I totally get that people are tired of seeing Linux recommendations but…
Pointing out that there is an alternative without the same issues is hardly “forcing Linux as a religious zealot forces their way on other people”
That’s a bit hyperbolic imo
Everyone knows there are alternatives. Even if it is just Mac.
No need to bring up your specific flavour of OS.
If they are specifically dissatisfied with the way Windows is working and will always work and feel up to try to modify it to work less shitty they are probably exactly the group that should switch to Linux or pony up the money for a Mac.
Instead you’d be fuckin around with drivers and unsupported software while you are just trying to get shit done.
I’ve used Linux for years but always come back to Windows because I’ve never had a completely perfect distro, even the first party stuff. I already dick around with software at work and hardware at home. The last thing I want is to spend another dozen hours figuring out why copy/paste stopped working and how I go about fixing that on a forum from 2006.
Right? Sometimes you just want to unwind instead of doing even more bug fixing during your spare time.
Nope I just buy supported hardware and software that works without difficulty which I’ve been doing since 2003.
And now you’ve gone from ‘Install an alternate OS’ to ‘Buy a new computer that supports an alternate OS’.
We get it. Linux exists. I doubt there is a single Lemmy user who is unaware that Linux is a thing. We are already using it or have valid reasons to not be using it.
Some of us require Windows to do our work.
Takes 5 minutes to try a live session. Not much more time then you spent on this thread. Less time than you spent on Netflix watching a episode of this or that.
This is kind of intellectually dishonest don’t you think? It both ignores the fact that Linux runs on the majority of hardware and invites us to pretend that Linux users are constantly buying random windows machines and hoping they work. It’s nice that Linux supports so much hardware that you can pick a random machine and have it probably work well but if you do decide to use on your PC logically when you do buy a new machine its apt—pun intended—to be something you picked explicitly because it’s supported.
The question is really just a question of whether the user prefers one environment or the other.
Given that you managed to miss what I said, I’ll reiterate: I know about Linux. Pretty-much everyone here knows about Linux. Evangalising about Linux is not useful. I’ve been running it, and making my living off my knowledge of Linux for over 25 years. At home, I have four computers and three of them exclusively run variants of Linux.
No. You literally said “Nope I just buy supported hardware and software that works without difficulty which I’ve been doing since 2003.” in response to the very valid issue raised that Windows has better hardware support. I personally happen to disagree with that statement, I think the hardware support for older hardware in particular is much better in Linux than Windows. But for newer hardware, Windows drivers come before Linux drivers for very obvious reasons.
I also need to use Windows for work. My primary workstation runs Windows. This isn’t a matter of preference. There are many valid reasons for running Windows. And because of that, this headline is relevant to many people here.
I actually use Linux on everything other than my work computer due to needing a few programs that absolutely will not work on Linux and do not have Linux alternatives.
Until you can’t game at 4k, 120hz, with an HDR high resolution display.
But, from the most recent time I tried it: Display scaling doesn’t always work (150% UI). 2x worked fine, it is supposed to work fine with wayland, but wayland didn’t seem to like nvidia drivers. Many anti cheats don’t work. WoW didn’t work (though it should based off the wine compatibility reviews). Bluetooth had issues (didn’t reconnect on startup I think).
While I’d love to change to linux, every time it’s always been inferior for my personal use cases. As windows gets worse, and linux gets better, eventually the time will come when I switch. But for a great many people, the support simply isn’t there yet.
I don’t get why Linux users don’t understand that they are part of like a 1% bubble. 99% of people would not enjoy Linux. I’m a Pop Os user myself and seeing what I have to do sometimes to get simple everday things to work that work right out of the box in Windows and MacOs is rediculus. No normie would ever figure out what to do even when googling. Linux is an exclusive Pc enthusiast operating system. Even the beginner friendly distros are not “dump proof” enough for the regular person. There is no use in advocating it on every problem post from Windows or MacOs. You’re doing no one a favor with it.
Its actually more like 2.x% and its a lot higher in some segments like developer. The fact that the most popular phone OS on the planet is based on Linux is trivial proof that you can make an experience that is desirable and usable by the majority of people based on the same technology.
That said android isn’t really that simple if you come to it there is actually plenty of complexity both in terms of interfaces that vary between manufacturer and features. If we were to consider for instance Linux Mint running cinnamon I wouldn’t say the complexity of Mint/Cinnamon is higher than android.