• LordBullingdon@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    the same thing could have been said once about white supremacist South Africa - ie whites and blacks aren’t interested in co-existing so one of them will have to fuck off, or at the very least they have to remain permanently seperated.
    In reality there needs to be a process of reconciliation and probably a two state solution with a long term view to integrating into a single, democratic state (I only say a two state solution is necessary first because obviously this generation of Israeli’s is not going to accept the abolition of their ethnostate). Hamas and the other Palestinian resistance groups have said that they would accept a two state solution approximating the 1967 borders.
    But apartheid South Africa was forced into reconciliation, by the violence of resistance groups but also by international pressure and sanctions. Basically apartheid South Africa became unviable. Israel will not be forced into this position by the ‘international community’ because unlike S.Africa it is integral to them, specifically it is integral to US imperialism in the Middle East.

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      1 year ago

      (I only say a two state solution is necessary first because obviously this generation of Israeli’s is not going to accept the abolition of their ethnostate)

      Ethnonationalists don’t need to consent, see South Africa or Rhodesia. Fuck them, they can cry about it. The only additional concession is that perhaps Europe and the anglosphere can take back some of their garbage.

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        1 year ago

        Pragmatically I don’t see how it’s achieved without consent though. It’s about making Israel as it currently exists unviable. Realistically Israel is not going to be forcibly abolished short of a Third World War. White South Africa basically did consent to a transition.