• nobloat
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    1 year ago

    Ok that’s a fair point. But I see him used as a kind of scapegoat that masks what is happening now. No matter how fucked are US policies now some would day “at least it’s not Trump.” There was never a chance of him overthrowing anything tbh. The riot that happened are kind of a joke and they didn’t even know wtf to do once they got inside so they just took selfies. It’s a terrible look of course but I don’t think there was any great danger given what it would take to actually overthrow a government in the US.

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      1 year ago

      It was not just a riot. It was a (thankfully failed) insurrection. He wanted to delay the counting of the electoral votes, maybe never count them at all. And if that failed, he and his minions plotted to put fake electors in place to get the votes of blue states thrown out. He pressured the VP to ignore the constitution and declare him president via the fake electors. Had Mike Pence had a little less integrity, it would have worked.

      Trump’s loose lips that shared secret information with foreigners. We lost many operatives around the world following his spillage of state secrets.

      It’s the stealing and refusing to return top secret/compartmentalized documents. It’s 91 federal indictments related to all the above. It’s the fact that he’s under indictment in more than one state.

      If none of that is enough for you:

      He dismantled the US pandemic rapid response centers, sentencing many Americans to death when Covid hit. He downplayed the virus, attacked the surgeon general & mocked him, refused to wear a mask or take any precautions at all. And he led close to half the country with him, causing Covid to hit us much more severely than it could have. He suggested using bleach and light internally as a cure.

      He drew on a map with a sharpie, to show us all where we should make a hurricane hit.

      He’s a vindictive man who delayed/withheld aid to California after devastating wildfires because they had not voted for him. “If they don’t like me, I don’t like them.”

      He is a man who acts like a toddler with the vocabulary of a third grader…a truly stupid man with mob-like tendencies.

      He’s aligned himself with white supremacists.

      He’s bragged about seeing teenage girls nude in the miss teen america dressing room. He has bragged about kissing women without their permission, of grabbing them by the pussy, talked earnestly about how big his newborn daughter’s boobs would get, talked about how he’d date her if she wasn’t his daughter, cheated on all his wives, buried one of them on a golf course, failed to maintain the burial site…just to save a couple of tax dollars.

      He fleeced the elderly and uneducated of this country by giving them fake coins and dollars in exchange for donations. He stiffed contractors and lawyers by failing to pay them after they’ve earned their pay.

      He is, at best, a pig who lusts for power and if he gets it back, he’ll not willingly let go.

      So it’s not just a joke riot. Trump did actual damage and is continuing to do so today by holding the entire GOP by the balls.

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      1 year ago

      Scapegoat??? Maybe look up that term means. He’s the cause of much of the shit and continues to be. He spews hate and lies, so much that a large percentage of the population actually doubts the 2020 results.

      And what if just a few more people had went along with him? What if Pence threw out the votes? What if Barr went along with his story that the election was stolen? What if the rioters had gotten to the Representatives on Jan 6th? Might that gallows have been used? How many more would have went along with the lie just to avoid being caught up in violence?

      The world and the US have a lot of problems completely unrelated to Trump, but he made none of the problems better, many worse and created some of its worst unlike any other president in history.

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        1 year ago

        I know what scapegoating means. It has a specific sense in ideology critique (for example in Zizek’s Sublime object of Ideology). It means a figure in which a systematic issue is projected in order to mask the system itself. I am not saying Trump was good. I am saying the hysteric focus on him as this evil detached from the system, instead of a symptom and the culmination of it, is scapegoating. It doesn’t mean he is good. Even now when Biden condones war crimes we are hearing about Trump who has no power whatsoever. Trump is used to not confront what is there and what may give rise to other Trumps or maybe to some politically correct genocide suppoeter as a president.