Edit: Meme has been slightly altered to be more accurate. Credit to @ininewcrow for the updated and better image.

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      11 months ago

      Some of the most racist and bigoted people, are also very politically correct.

      Some of the least racist and bigoted people, are also very politically incorrect.

      PC language is often used by people who are awkward around minorities or want to disguise their true intentions.

      Political correctness has its place, but it’s better to judge people by what they do or say, not how they say it.

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      11 months ago

      Grew up near a res friendo, it was generally the preferred term. But tell me more about that horse you’re on

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        11 months ago

        Oh hey pot! I’m kettle, nice to meet you!

        The fuck you on about “horse I’m on” lmao, you just did the same exact thing

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          I’m indigenous and I personally have no problem with being called Indian but I know a few of my relatives hate the term. I guess it really depends on the person

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          I’m using the term I’ve been told to use to describe a group of people, by that group of people. Or at least a group of that people. If someone of that group comes up with a different term they’d like me to use I’ll happily use that, until then, I’ll use the last term I know to have been acceptable.

          If you’re a member of that group and prefer a different term, then make that known.

          If you’re not a member of that group, then you’re making assumptions for a group of people and calling it respect while completely disregarding the wishes of the people to whom you’re attempting to refer.

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            I’m not disregarding wishes. I’ll call any INDIVIDUAL whatever they want to be called. Groups will be referred to by the most accurate and accepted name. Indians are from India and it’s ridiculous to call Native Americans/American Indians that. It’s as ridiculous as calling any black person “African American”, like when the interviewer insisted on that terminology for Idris Elba, a black British man. That’s it. I’m not calling them “Redskins”, for example. I’m using a perfectly respectful and accepted term and not one that may or may not be accepted, depending on who you ask, and not one that is literally incorrect.

            Edit: There’s a person directly below this comment whose relatives hate the term “Indian”.

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      In the usa many do use the term Indian over native American. Not all it varries from place to place.

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        So you speak for ALL American Indians, then? Do I speak for ALL Germans? Or have I been in the US long enough that I’m no longer German? My grandmother was born in Germany, is that too far? Or is it just skin color, I speak for all whites, no matter the country or culture of origin? I’m curious to the rules here- I shouldn’t speak for American Indians because I’m not one, right? So who can speak for all American Indians and all 547 distinct tribes (federally recognized)? Do you speak for every tribe? If not you, then who? Your phrasing was “Unless you’re American indian”, so… yes? You speak for all 547 tribes and 5.2 million people?

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            11 months ago

            Buuuuuut… you did say “Unless you’re American indian”, so that does imply that you or someone else CAN speak for all of a group. So I’m a bit confused here. I will call you whatever you’d like me to call you, including “Indian” on its own if that’s what you’d prefer to be called (even though that doesn’t make sense to me), but you didn’t actually answer my questions. Let me try again- how is it bigoted to not assume that a group of people would want to be called something that is fundamentally incorrect by definition, has a turbulent history, and is not what most federal programs call them- you yourself say that the benefits go to “American Indians”, not “Indians”.

            Thanks for the coloring page, is it one of your favorites?

    • MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@kbin.social
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      Baby steps…
      Or maybe they are not familiar with sportsball teams and are confusing the logo with that of the Cleveland Indians.
      I had to look it up.