• halvo317@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    You’re thinking that it’s AMAB female-identifying lesbians. There’s AFAB lesbians that prefer he/him pronouns, but prefer the butch/femme lesbian experience. Or a combination or other stuff too.

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              Stop making such a big fuss about this. You want to feel a woman? Fine. You want to become a trans man or woman? Fine. You wan to feel like a dragon or (yes) an attack helicopter? All fine, great! So what you want, it’s your life.

              But for the love of god, stop bugging other people about it. This entire gender and pronoun thing has gone way off the rails. pronouns is a non issue, no-one cares. There are hundreds of actual important issues at hand, try and focus on those?

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            yes, since roughly 1850-1910 depending on your country or state people have been assigned a gender at birth. As it’s a relatively new thing (from the perspective of the last ~2 million years of humans existing), there has been a movement since those early years, to allow people to change it.

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              Yeaaahh, and for those people living in the real-world, that gender is not assigned, it’s literally what you are. If you later in life feel like you’re not, that’s fine, switch, or not, it’s your life, live it, love it.

              Either which way: at birth, barring some extreme exceptions, every one has just a penis or a vagina and as such is a boy or a girl.

              Bothi wrong with that, and nothing that should be abolished because I don’t like to abolish reality

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      In your example, is the distinction that you used the word “prefer” for pronouns? So the hypothetical couple are both AFAB and identify as homosexual women but enjoy being called by male pronouns?

      No hate intended, just trying to educate myself.

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      No, I was thinking the latter - the former example with at least one MtF partner should just be lesbians, because they both identify as female, no?

      But if they’re identifying as a guy, but still identifying as lesbian, doesn’t that kind of dilute the fact that they’re identifying as a guy?

      Taking that gender identity at face value, shouldn’t any relationship under it identify as gay/straight (dependent on which partner(s) are FtM)?

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          Fair enough. I’m generally a live and let live type of person - but this scenario just seems like a living contradiction to me, so I’m struggling to understand it.

          Also, having just looked at my own reply, sorry if my line of questions came off as needlessly confrontational - was not my intention, I was just curious were others line up on this.

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            I didn’t get that vibe from you. I was just saying that thinking about it too rigorously just makes being an ally more difficult than it needs to be.

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            I understand, I am confused by it as well, but as you said it, live and let live. It truly doesn’t affect me, one way or the other, as long as no one is getting hurt (non consensually) and everyone is having fun, then it has no bearing on my life, so I don’t trouble myself with it. Let me know your pronouns, and I’ll address you as such, the rest doest matter to me!

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            Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)

            -Whitman