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    Mathew 25: 36 - 40

    I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

    Why does our country embody NONE of these ideals? Why do modern day Christians embody NONE of these ideals? How can we call ourselves a nation under god when we bomb innocent civilians, starve children for profit, imprison a population disproportionately then use them as slave labor, and shoot at immigrants for merely crossing an imaginary line.

    What GOD would want us?

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      What GOD would want us?

      The one that fell the walls of Jericho and asked Abraham to kill his son to show loyalty, and tested Job by murdering his family. That’s their god.

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        I agree in sentiment with this, but any serious reading of the Christian Bible shows the entire point of Christ is basically replacing the vengeful god with a loving and forgiving one. These people are just bad Christians.

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          What kind of god gets their own autobiography so wrong on the first try that it needs a revision?

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            Lol. I guess a good faith response from a theologian or someone like Leibniz would be that we by definition are much smaller than god, so we don’t have enough information to judge god.

            If we are going to play the “let’s say god does exist” game, I’d say the if god is creating rational beings with some sort of free will, and not just automatons that do exactly what the creator wants, and he created a stable world based on physics to house these beings, it’s going to get pretty messy at times. Death itself would surely seem like evil and cause a man to curse god - until a man ponders living forever and realizes that death is in fact a blessing.

            I like the idea that god is the one already stuck living forever, and creates us as to be be able to experience mortality. But I can also say that’s all bullshit and we could never know for sure, and is arguably very unlikely, given the current circumstances.

            Perhaps in death we will know.

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            Or is so perfect and omniscient and yet creates a race of beings so flawed that it needs to be wiped out by flood and have his son sent later to be executed by them to forgive them for being so bad.

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            Yeah, I mean Christianity, i.e. being Christ-like is an extremely tough ask, hence forgiveness is a sacrament. It’s really all about keeping up that push and eventually overcoming our bad habits or learning to act more selflessly.

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              Interesting. You’d think most were trying to be more selfish than selfless… Almost like they aren’t even trying to be Christ-like. They should excommunicate themselves for being terrible Christians.

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                Yeah I don’t know if I’m going to go ahead and judge millions of people on whether or not they are selfish. Throwing the first stone and all that. 😉

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                  Oh it’s not a judgement. It’s a call to action that they should actually practice what they preach. They seriously SHOULD be excommunicating each other for this stuff, but they don’t.

                  They DEMONSTRATE that the institution is corrupt. It requires no judgement from me for that to be wholly true.

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      That’s the general shape of my reply when someone tries to tell me that it’s gay people or trans people or abortion or pornography that are ‘causing God to hate us’. You mean, it’s me and my husband and our trans friends, and not the hate and the murder and the greed and the privation of the downtrodden?

      It’s never a productive conversation, let me tell you…