Causualties Israel-Palestine 10/24/23: Gaza 5791 dead, 16297 wounded, Israel 1405 dead, 5431 wounded.

Discoslugs@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Causualties Israel-Palestine 10/24/23: Gaza 5791 dead, 16297 wounded, Israel 1405 dead, 5431 wounded.

Kbobabob@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Why doesn’t it include women and children counts for both?

steventhedev@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Because Al Jazeera is a biased source. If you want to look for yourself, you can go through a partial list of the Israeli fatalities here. Google translate is decent. Not all include an age, and Israelis have many unisex names.

lepthesr@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

I can’t trust either side. But I can guarantee that number is bigger than zero.

hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest · edit-2 1 year ago

Israel: Hamas beheaded 40 babies

Israel: We never said that

Israel: But actually we have footage of it

Israel: But we’re not going to show you

Israel: Ok some journalists can see it but they have to put their phones in Yondr™ pouches because we’re filming a special for Netflix

pythoneer@programming.dev · 1 year ago

Israel indeed never said it. What I’ve seen is that some reporter that said that they beheaded babies, and 40 babies were killed, then somehow it for turned to 40 beheaded babies on social media.
So basically Israeli officials never claimed that.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/unverified-allegations-beheaded-babies-israel-hamas-war-inflame-social-rcna119902

hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest · 1 year ago

In a response to questions by The Washington Post, a White House spokesperson said the president’s comments were based on news reports and claims by the Israeli government.

“The president based his comments about the alleged atrocities on the claims from Netanyahu’s spokesman and media reports from Israel, according to the White House.”

The Israeli army has said that it cannot confirm the claims, which were repeated on Wednesday by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s spokesperson Tal Heinrich.

But Israeli military officials have told a number of media outlets that women and children were “brutally butchered in an ISIS way of action”.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/white-house-walks-back-bidens-claim-he-saw-children-beheaded-by-hamas#:~:text=The White House has walked,leaders at the White House.

pythoneer@programming.dev · 1 year ago

That’s good and all but still the claim of “40 babies were beheaded” never existed.

hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest · edit-2 1 year ago

The Israeli army has said that it cannot confirm the claims, which were repeated on Wednesday by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s spokesperson Tal Heinrich.

What are you disagreeing with?

Are you trying to say Tal Heinrich is not a spokesperson for the IDF? Because NewsNation, IndiaTimes, Australian Financial Review 9news[dot]au, and the NY Post all refer to her as such. Ohh and theres this piece from JewishInsider

The Prime Minister’s Office has put together a task force that includes some past staff, such as Netanyahu’s former spokesman and diplomatic adviser, Mark Regev, and President Isaac Herzog’s former spokesman, Eylon Levy, as well as new faces such as journalist Tal Heinrich, to help with wartime communications.

Hyperreality@kbin.social · edit-2 1 year ago

Al Jazeera is widely considered Islamist propaganda, including by the Palestinian Authority/Fatah and governments in the Muslim world. Post a more credible source, if you want people to be less sceptical.

vind@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

It’s not.

It’s Qatari biased but not Islamist propaganda.if it doesn’t directly affect Qatar’s government, they are one of the best news sources especially revolving the Middle East.

Hyperreality@kbin.social · 1 year ago

Copy-paste:

Al Jazeera:

… Officials of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party … accused Al-Jazeera of bias toward Hamas (with which it is at political loggerheads), and Fatah official Mohammed Dahlan sued the broadcaster. … On 15 July of that year [2009], the Palestinian National Authority (PA) closed down Al Jazeera’s offices in the West Bank in an apparent response to claims made on the channel by Farouk Kaddoumi that PA president Mahmoud Abbas had been involved in the death of Yasser Arafat. The Palestinian Information Ministry called the organization’s coverage “unbalanced” and accused it of incitement against the PLO and the PA. … Al Jazeera reporters and anchors in London, Paris, Moscow, Beirut and Cairo have resigned. Ali Hashem, the organization’s Shia Beirut correspondent, resigned after leaked emails publicized his discontent with Al Jazeera’s “unprofessional” and biased coverage of the Syrian civil war at the expense of the 2011 Bahraini uprising. Since the Bahrain government was supported by the Gulf Cooperation Council (of which Qatar is a member), the protests were given less prominence than the Syrian conflict on the network. Longtime Berlin correspondent Aktham Suliman left in late 2012, saying that he felt he was no longer allowed to work as an independent journalist … Al Jazeera faced criticism from Bangladeshi human rights activists …accused of downplaying the 1971 Bangladesh genocide, in which Islamist militias assisted the Pakistan Army in targeting Bengalis … demanded a ban on Al Jazeera transmission within Bangladesh citing similar bans in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan and the UAE.

… Critics say in past years, Al-Jazeera — particularly its flagship Arabic channel — has reflected Qatari policy by promoting Islamist movements. Many of the region’s Arab rulers, particularly in Egypt and the UAE, see the Muslim Brotherhood group and its offshoots as a top threat. … Al-Jazeera’s English and Arabic channels, as well as its news websites and its popular online AJ+ videos, do not mirror one another in style and target different audiences.

And:

Qatar’s dalliance with Islamist groups has long been the primary means for Doha to project influence in the Arab world, particularly through state support for Al Jazeera Arabic. After 2011, Qatar came to believe, and Al Jazeera Arabic confidently predicted, that a wave of Islamist governance would sweep in with new Arab democracies. Instead, the elected Brotherhood government in Egypt proved even more unpopular than the Hosni Mubarak dictatorship … With the Brotherhood’s decline in prestige and power, Qatar’s bet has yielded precious few returns. And now Hamas’s disastrous rebranding in Western eyes could well force a reckoning with Doha’s irresponsible strategy.

hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest · 1 year ago

Al Jazeera is actually pretty legit. Obviously you gotta be aware because it is literally government funded but let this be the first of many times you will look up a claim made by Al Jazeera and find it to be true.

Btw, you could easily look this up. Why is this my job? I gave you quotes and names so you could look this shit up yourself.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for further details about Biden’s remarks. Two senior administration officials said Biden was referring to reports from Israel about beheaded children and cited several media reports of beheadings.

NBC News has not confirmed those reports. IDF Spokesperson Maj. Doron Spielman told NBC News: “That specific report and that number I can’t confirm.”

A spokesperson for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday that toddlers and babies were found in Kfar Aza, a kibbutz in southern Israel, with their “heads decapitated” after Hamas’ attack over the weekend, CNN reported.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-deliver-remarks-roundtable-jewish-community-leaders-rcna119865

Almost verbatim what Al Jazeera said

Hyperreality@kbin.social · 1 year ago

Much of Russia Today’s coverage is also perfectly factual. They mix the lies in with the truths, to make it less obvious.

Feel free to continue posting al jazeera links, but people will be rightly sceptical. It is not a reliable source.

TokenBoomer@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Removed by mod

Aleric@lemmy.world · edit-2 1 year ago

That source says things I don’t like, that means it’s propaganda!

ROFLMAO.

Hyperreality@kbin.social · 1 year ago

Copy-paste:

Al Jazeera:

… Officials of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party … accused Al-Jazeera of bias toward Hamas (with which it is at political loggerheads), and Fatah official Mohammed Dahlan sued the broadcaster. … On 15 July of that year [2009], the Palestinian National Authority (PA) closed down Al Jazeera’s offices in the West Bank in an apparent response to claims made on the channel by Farouk Kaddoumi that PA president Mahmoud Abbas had been involved in the death of Yasser Arafat. The Palestinian Information Ministry called the organization’s coverage “unbalanced” and accused it of incitement against the PLO and the PA. … Al Jazeera reporters and anchors in London, Paris, Moscow, Beirut and Cairo have resigned. Ali Hashem, the organization’s Shia Beirut correspondent, resigned after leaked emails publicized his discontent with Al Jazeera’s “unprofessional” and biased coverage of the Syrian civil war at the expense of the 2011 Bahraini uprising. Since the Bahrain government was supported by the Gulf Cooperation Council (of which Qatar is a member), the protests were given less prominence than the Syrian conflict on the network. Longtime Berlin correspondent Aktham Suliman left in late 2012, saying that he felt he was no longer allowed to work as an independent journalist … Al Jazeera faced criticism from Bangladeshi human rights activists …accused of downplaying the 1971 Bangladesh genocide, in which Islamist militias assisted the Pakistan Army in targeting Bengalis … demanded a ban on Al Jazeera transmission within Bangladesh citing similar bans in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan and the UAE.

… Critics say in past years, Al-Jazeera — particularly its flagship Arabic channel — has reflected Qatari policy by promoting Islamist movements. Many of the region’s Arab rulers, particularly in Egypt and the UAE, see the Muslim Brotherhood group and its offshoots as a top threat. … Al-Jazeera’s English and Arabic channels, as well as its news websites and its popular online AJ+ videos, do not mirror one another in style and target different audiences.

And:

Qatar’s dalliance with Islamist groups has long been the primary means for Doha to project influence in the Arab world, particularly through state support for Al Jazeera Arabic. After 2011, Qatar came to believe, and Al Jazeera Arabic confidently predicted, that a wave of Islamist governance would sweep in with new Arab democracies. Instead, the elected Brotherhood government in Egypt proved even more unpopular than the Hosni Mubarak dictatorship … With the Brotherhood’s decline in prestige and power, Qatar’s bet has yielded precious few returns. And now Hamas’s disastrous rebranding in Western eyes could well force a reckoning with Doha’s irresponsible strategy.

Causualties Israel-Palestine 10/24/23: Gaza 5791 dead, 16297 wounded, Israel 1405 dead, 5431 wounded.

Causualties Israel-Palestine 10/24/23: Gaza 5791 dead, 16297 wounded, Israel 1405 dead, 5431 wounded.

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