• Yote.zip@pawb.socialEnglish
    2092·
    1 year ago

    I know it’s not exactly the point of the post but I want to go on a tangent and note that it’s 100% valid for kids to complain about school even if you have it harder. You should take their feelings seriously because their feelings are just as real to them as you hating your job is to you. When a toddler spills their juice and starts crying, those feelings are just as intense as yours, and you should respond accordingly instead of thinking “don’t they know about the wars in the middle east?”

      • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15·
        1 year ago

        I had an absolutely terrible time in my small underfunded high school due to chronic illness, family tragedy, coming from a poor home, and just generally not having that many friends. I got picked on, I struggled intensely with untreated ADHD and depression, and was just all together miserable.

        But to spite all that, I completely understand what people mean when they say they miss that period of their life, and I’d never seek to make them think they’re wrong for feeling that. There’s a weird defensiveness about this topic where people seem to feel anyone else having any sort of positive association with that period of time somehow invalidates their own hardships.

        High School is not a good or bad thing. It’s just a thing. An experience that was different for everyone. It’s okay to leave it at that.

    • glimse@lemmy.world
      401·
      1 year ago

      Babies cry because whatever happened was the worst thing they can ever remember happening

        • ManOMorphos@lemmy.world
          3·
          1 year ago

          I feel this way even though I’m doing alright nowadays. I think past a point of environmental or social stress, it takes away the ability to express certain feelings.

          I don’t have strong emotions anymore but nothing is particularly painful either. That was not the case for me in high school, dealing with particularly bad depression.

          • WYLD_STALLYNS@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            8·
            1 year ago

            I feel you there, I was told I was gonna die in my 20’s due to an aneurysm from an inoperable mass in my brain.

            Got an experimental surgery, which technically failed… yet, here I still am alive lol. My neurologists don’t really know what to say decades later, so short of having a huge luck stat, I might be unkillable? 😂

            And honestly, I would’ve rather go out in better shape, not achy af like I am now. 🥴

    • Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      15·
      1 year ago

      This 100%.

      Sure, a kids worst day of their life is probably still a better day than the worst day of an adults life. But it is still the worst day of their life and they are entitled to feel like so.

    • VanitasTheUnversed@lemmy.world
      161·
      1 year ago

      I fucking hated school. I remember my freshman math teacher would give us packets with work for each day of the week. I would finish my folder of work either Monday or Tuesday and would just sleep. I had an A in that class for my work and my tests.

      I failed that class because “participation is half your grade” Get fucked, cunt.

      • veroxii@aussie.zone
        3·
        1 year ago

        The good teachers teach because they love it and want to make a positive difference.

        But a large percentage teach because they are miserable cunts who couldn’t work anywhere else because adults wouldn’t tolerate their bullshit.

  • Eochaid@lemmy.world
    991·
    1 year ago

    The answer isn’t nostalgia for school. The answer is to improve work with the “perceived” benefits of school. 30-hour work weeks, 6 weeks paid vacation, paid holidays including bank holidays, occasional half days after the end of a big project, chatting with coworkers that aren’t stressed out of their mind and actually given the mental space to be chill with you.

    That’s the real dream.

  • homura1650@lemmy.world
    61·
    1 year ago

    I’m a college graduate with a successful career in my field of study. The hardest part of getting here was graduating college. To this day, I have never had a nightmare about college or work; but I still get them about high school.

    At work, I have 1 boss. In highschool, I had 6 bosses. At work, my boss tells me what to peioritize. If I have multiple things to do, it is their job to tell me what to let slide. If we are behind schedule, it is management’s fault, and they arrange an appropriate responce. Timelines are typically just guesses that are missed, and true deadlines are rare. In highschool, all of my bosses simply give me work, and I am responsible for getting it all done. All work is on a strict deadline, and slipping is highly penalized.

    At work, I can simply do the work, and get occasional guidance where appropriate. In school, every piece of work I do is combed through for errors and reduced to a cold score.

    As an adult, I would not put up with half the crap we make students go through as a matter of course.

    • RGB3x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      1 year ago

      Mine came at 6:20. Day started at 7:10 and we got let out at 2:10. But didn’t get home until closer to 3. A 9 hour day not including after school practice.

      I don’t know where these 6 hour school days are, but I didn’t get them.

  • Grass@sh.itjust.works
    502·
    1 year ago

    What about the endless work you had to take home with you to finish, with some teachers even disallowing finishing it in class, having to deal with bullies and other idiots, being told you need to get laid and that it would change your life, finding out together with someone in the same position that it really doesn’t change anything and you just have to be a special type of stupid to think that, resolving stuff with bullies only to start getting bullied by teachers over your health issues, and probably so much more that has been buried as a defense mechanism.

  • endhits@lemmy.world
    481·
    1 year ago

    Nope. I would take my worst days as a working adult over my best days as a minor in school.

    • abraxas@sh.itjust.works
      293·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, no shit. If my coworker tries to bully me, I have him fired. If he tries to fight me, I have him arrested. If my boss (I have one, instead of 7) is an asshole to me, I put out my resume.

      There’s a lot of advantages to school if you’re a lazy bastard who just wants life to hand you things on a silver platter and are willing to pay the price of freedom, but there’s also a lot of negatives.

    • Serinus@lemmy.world
      171·
      1 year ago

      Gimme that homework now. I’ll absolutely crush those essays I used to have so much trouble with.

      • twelvefloatinghands@lemmy.world
        8·
        1 year ago

        They really need to be lower stakes. Year-end exams just cover too much material for failure to be no big deal. Should be that failing a test requires a few days of review to catch up on the parts you didn’t know, and then you’re good.

      • idiomaddict@feddit.de
        12·
        1 year ago

        Homework is really helpful didactically, but it should be coordinated throughout the entire school to avoid overlapping crunch time and limited to 30-40 hours per week of combined class time and homework time total depending on age.

    • son_named_bort@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      The homework was the worst part. My school was 7 hours in class every day, which wouldn’t be bad, but I’d usually have at least an hour of homework a night, some nights it would be like 3 or 4 hours, and that doesn’t count weekend homework, which could be several hours. I’ve had whole weekends shot due to homework. I think I spent more time with high school than I do with work.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      Math homework was the worst for me because I’m practically math-illiterate. I was only required to take one math class for college and there was no homework. It was so wonderful.

      The professor was a funny guy. He always told us not to study on the weekends because if we studied too much, our brains would explode and someone would have to clean it up.

  • Knightfox@lemmy.oneEnglish
    445·
    1 year ago

    If you’re a social and relatively smart person (or just take the minimum requirements) high school is probably really fun and easy. If you aren’t social high school is either a job or a prison.

    If you liked high school more than adult life then you probably peaked in high school.

  • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
    36·
    1 year ago

    no weekends

    9 to 3

    Did OP go to like rich people fake school? Homework took up half your out-of-school time and I had to wake up before 6:30.

    • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
      8·
      1 year ago

      Here in Romania, it’s 8-14 for primary and 8-16 for secondary. 8-15 or 9-16 is pretty standard for the UK. Those both include 1 hour lunch breaks.

      There’s also been a push here in the EU to move to later start times for children’s mental health reasons, especially for teens. I don’t think it’s gotten a lot of traction though.

      Googling around, looks like 9-15 is standard for Australia.

    • BellaDonna@mujico.org
      7·
      1 year ago

      I suffered very badly because of the school times and the lack of sleep triggered manic episodes for me. Yes, getting up at 5:30 and trying to go to school on less than 3 hours every day wrecked my health and mental health.

      9 to 3 would have been a God send.

    • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      1 year ago

      9 to 3:30 in India, and weekends only if an unexpected holiday was declared (for example, due to rain). But we had an hour or two of homework every day.

    • Tankton@lemm.eeEnglish
      184·
      1 year ago

      Yeah. The people who long for the freedom of school life sure fucked something up in their adult life.

  • COASTER1921
    321·
    1 year ago

    Depending on the environment you grew up in this isn’t necessarily the case, high school and college particularly can be very high pressure and consume tons of time when you’re not actively “at school”. The pressure in college was so much higher than in a real job for me. Weekends used to be for homework and studying only. Weekdays after 5? Also homework. The stress and self inflicted pressure before finals and exams which determine 20%+ of your grade was unreal. Summers were for internships and those weekends were nice. But still not as nice as doing the same thing and getting paid 4x as much.

    • dfc09@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 year ago

      Yep, I work hard all day but get to put it away once I clock out. Not too mention I get paid for it.

    • rasputin@lemmy.world
      6·
      1 year ago

      Yeah wth I had to wake up at 6 every day which was basically torture for soft, teenager me.

      Though still, enviable compared to having to wake up at 6 and keep your kids alive all day. I kinda miss having fun.

  • edric@lemm.eeEnglish
    23·
    1 year ago

    I actually personally prefer my current work life over school. WFH, no studying after hours, no exams, no pressure to pass/graduate. Just do my job and forget about it when I log off. Granted there is still stress from the job, but it’s more about meeting deadlines for something I know how to do. I do take training and certification exams from time to time (which I hate because it feels like school). YMMV depending on your job obviously.

  • Margot Robbie@lemm.ee
    211·
    1 year ago

    Yeah, but have you considered that you don’t get paid to go to school?

    Nostalgia is a very strong thought, but being a grown-up means that sadly, there is a lot of things in life you’ll have to give up because of money and responsibilities.

    But life is short, there is no reason to not live your dreams and enjoy life and be a kid again once in a while. Do something crazy, say something stupid, go see your friends every day not because you have to, but because you want to, have fun again.