President Joe Biden was asked by a reporter in Israel on Wednesday what made him confident that the Israelis weren’t behind the explosion that killed hundreds at a Gaza hospital on Tuesday.
Biden responded that it was “the data I was shown by my Defense Department.”
Two U.S. officials told ABC News the Pentagon independently concluded the Gaza hospital blast was likely caused by an errant Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that fell short of its target.
Ah yes. Just like Iraq had WMDs.
Sure is crazy how, of all the places a rocket misfire could have landed, it struck a place guaranteed to be full of people. A baptist hospital, no less, which would definitely drive up religious tensions in the area if it turned out it was bombed by HAMAS. Israel couldn’t have hoped for a more favorable outcome, how fortunate.
This line really doesn’t mean that much anymore after critics used it to say the claims that Russia was going to invade Ukraine were untrue.
Healthy skepticism is warranted, but let’s not use arguments that have become hollow.
It’s not a hollow argument, the US has a long history of blatantly lying for political reasons. And the Iraq lie resulted in the US murdering 1 million+ Iraqis, acting like it’s irrelevant because you don’t want to hear criticism of the US is a bullshit response.
And people repeatedly said this about the US claiming Russia was going to invade Ukraine. How did that go?
They could have done damage to the hospital proper, that would have been more favorable in this escalation plot you nailed down. Why another escalation is needed after raids are already commencing, I dunno, the plot is just so dastardly. The anti-israel riots after this event are undoubtedly going to be used by Israel to give carte blanche to start striking Gaza! Oh wait, that was already happening. A plan so good it is accomplished before it starts.
Also the density of Gaza would make it more probable than not that hamas/Islamic jihad bombs would land in population dense spots when they land short. You don’t hear about the IJ bombs that didn’t land in hospital parking lots, and assuming otherwise would be rife with logical fallacies.
All in all these events gave Israel nothing that they didn’t already have, and stalled Arab meetings to boot. IJ got a pr coup from uncritical media, and the whole event has been muddied into useless circles.
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My dude, HAMAS rockets are barely capable of doing property damage, let alone killing hundreds of people. You expect me to believe that one of these things broke apart mid flight in the perfect fucking way to strike at the fuel supply and set it off in the middle of a huge building full of people? That this practically Rube Goldbergian chain of events is the more likely explanation? One of us is definitely spreading misinformation here but I don’t think it’s me.
When they’re firing thousands of these things? I think it’s possible.
I don’t have a dog in this fight. It’s a religious war that will go on until long past my years here.
It hit a parking lot at the hospital, not the actual building. Here’s an Initial analysis that was posted elsewhere on Lemmy.
This strike did not kill 500 people, there isn’t enough space in the area for 500 people. This is a lie spouted by Hamas, and you are propogating it.
I did not say 500. Even then it’s not hard to work out that hundreds of people died because that place probably had more people per square inch than any other possible place in the area. It’s was a hospital, in the middle of a war zone and one of the few places in the area with power. Which makes it all the more unlikely that this was an accident. Even just cutting the power to the hospital would have killed hundreds.
Look at the daylight pictures. There were less than 20 people in the area.
if you look at the images there is hardly any property damage. there is no crater. there are a few busted windows and some charred cars. not an expert but it wasnt some kind of WMD. and im not entirely sold on the 500 mark either.
its not gymnastics. israel is flattening gaza with bombs and has attacked “safe” escape routes. im not denying that. but hamas also has awful equipment and little military training, misfires are expected.
What do you mean “our cause”?
Isn’t truth the cause, and to stop the killing of ANY civilians? And to stop the needless killing on all sides….
I have no idea what you’re asking. Yes I would love if people stopped this madness and gave palestinians their homeland back. what does that have to do with facing the facts of one tragedy? friendly fire happens.
I’m no politician but that suggestion is even more untenable than the zionists here
Oh you sweet summer child, I wish.
Please think about this statement like, at all.
You think shitty weapons can blow up a hospital in one strike? Because of gas? You know movies aren’t real, right? Don’t be a dipshit.
Edit: Israel dropped more munitions on Gaza than America did in Afghanistan over an entire year. Afghanistan is 1788 times as large as Gaza. Anyone who thinks this wasn’t Israel is a fucking moron.
are you operating on day old intelligence? the hospital is still standing, it hit a parking lot.
Oh so you’re just a liar
Have you just not read any news after the fact? This is the blast zone.
spoiler
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a24dff65-5ea3-4334-9904-d3077b5e30fe.jpeg
Nice camera angle bro
“Freepalestine”
You Nazi fucks are so obvious.
you jump to fucking nazi of all things im trying to find truth in this situation? even when i denounce israel and hate it to my core?
Sure, that’s why you’re crafting bullshit on the face of them apologisms for them bombing a fucking hospital, and palling around with Nazi Hasbara spewing brigades. You’re either one of them or a useful fucking idiot.
Hamas and Islamic Jihad rockets misfire all the time. The majority of Gaza Strip is not made of hospital parking loats, so you just don’t hear about it.
This is what happens when you fire low quality rockst 24/7 over civilians.