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Pleeeeaaaase give this guy some consequences and not another stern talk and finger wag.
Fuck I would love to see actual consequences.
Bit worried that the gag order doesn’t directly preclude this though. Like yeah it’s clearly not in the spirit of, but is it a contravention?
The existing gag order from Justice Engoron most certainly does not cover this. AG James is not “court staff.” There would be a very justifiable call for a mistrial if the court and the plaintiff are on the same “staff.”
Trump would probably need to be arrested for the crime of doxxing. This can be charged in New York State, or - because AG James is both a State employee and an officer of the law - also at the federal level.
Widening the gag order sounds much more appropriate.
Although if idiots were to show up at the home of AG James you might reconsider charging Trump with whatever crime seemed appropriate.
Widening the gag order sounds much more appropriate.
It really doesn’t, though, because the end result is that Donald Trump, 45th fucking President of the United States, gets away with creating a substantial threat to the safety of a government employee involved in litigating against him in one of many court cases. Again.
But they’ll say “Oh, everybody knew that already, see it was someone else’s article!” and “AG James is not court staff!” and “First Amendment!” and “Get some flypaper!” And he will get away with it, again. He’ll get away with it next time, too.
The only way to keep him from stochastic terrorism is for one of the criminal courts to revoke his bond and put him in detention pending trial.
Someone is going to have to die before they are willing to crack down. I am hopeful that our justice system won’t let him slide. I imagine the long term damage would be devastating otherwise.
I’m paraphrasing here but
“I could shoot a man in the middle of the street and nothing would come of it”
I mean your right. I’d love to see him in jail.
It’s just that people with far more political and legal credibility than me are going to extraordinary lengths to ensure that the opportunities to cry foul as are minimal as possible.
You’re absolutely correct that this behavior reprehensible and all the rest but that specifically isn’t a crime.
The n the contrary, if doxxing is a crime and he meets the letter of the law he should be charged with that instead. And held without bond. Let him sit in jail without a phone until his lawyers successfully appeal the bond ruling.
this is not the experience of rich people in our court system. they do not sit in cells while their many lawyers do their thing.
if any regular people had done half of the felonious things that turd has, we’d be sitting in a cell.
Judges LOVE it when defendants try to get around court orders based on technicalities!
They’re going to slap the back of his hand with a wet bus ticket.
Fat chance on that buddy.
If I did a single thing this douchebag has done, I’d be in jail. Yet he’s the front runner for president for a political party. Blows my mind.
I cannot wait to not hear his name or voice again.
Almost like we live in a world with two very distinct classes of citizen, based entirely on money.
I feel it is necessary to point out that if Obama had done a small fraction of what Trump is accused of, he would have been executed.
Twice for good measure
I’d take Obama any day over the alternative, but the fact that he’s heralded as one of the greatest after authorizing the murder of an American citizen without due process is pretty remarkable. His presidency was marked with failure, but he’s a charismatic media darling, and the liberals eat it up just like the right.
I think it’s impossible to be the president of a world power without compromising at least some of your morality.
Whoa, whoa, whoa there. That is a conversation for c/TheDocksLaterTonight keep it low profile. (●__●)
I cannot wait to not hear his name or voice again
I suspect his obituary will only be the start of a decades long industry of books, articles and documentaries about him.
Unfortunately, he’s a stain on this planet that won’t go away for a very long time, even after he has a hamberder induced coronary.
The documentaries are already starting! Fox News has a show called Who is Donald J. Trump.
Man, totally with you. My fear is it’ll be the opposite. Either;
“MSNBC’S TOP 10 LESSONS WERE STILL LEARNING TODAY ABOUT THE MAGA MOVEMENT AND WHITE LIVES MATTER” clickbait from one marketing firm
or
“ONN’S TOP 10 !MORE! REASONS A 3RD TERM IS A LOCK FOR MAGA” Exclusive interview with Trump Rises Again from the other marketing team.
Not sure I have a preference for either. It’s inevitable though, we’re gonna be hearing about this seasonally appropriate burning shit bag on democracies porch for far too long after it either wins or lays low for another 30 years.
white loves matter
Why does that sound like some kind Log Cabin porn?
What a beautiful typo!
Average redditor thinks he is as important as a former us president. Wow. Just wow.
Work on your reading comprehension as you learn the English language.
They were saying that if any normal person had committed any one of the MANY crimes that this traitor has, we would already be locked up.
The word normal was never mentioned. On the contrary, he said it blows his mind, which means it was expected for him to get the same treatment. You wish you lacked what you’re accusing me of, instead youre arguing about non-existent words. Moronic and arrogant, congrats
It’s ok, you’ll learn how to read implied context one day - if you keep trying just a bit harder.
Now that we have that solved, do you or do you not believe traitor trump would be in jail if he weren’t a bratty trust fund con artist?
Or are you going to continue to avoid the reality that rich people don’t have laws applied to them like regular people?
He said it blows his mind, therefore the implication is he views him as his equal.
It’s ok, you’ll learn how to read implied context one day - if you keep trying just a bit harder.
The rest of your ramblings are strawmen, our argument was over my comment
Nope. That was not the implication. I’ve tried to explain it to you multiple times and it still somehow isn’t making it through to you. Makes sense I suppose
He said 2 things 1)trump is not getting the same treatment as he would 2)that fact blows his mind. This could only be mindblowing if he viewed him as his equal.
Also you “explained” stuff once, when you claimed he considers himself normal, when did the multiple times happen? Does the strawman trust fund baby avoiding jail count as explanation? As if I didnt already mention him being ex president which matters 100x more than his money. Youre making shit up every message, must be exhausting for people to talk to you irl.
Just how many laws does this man have to break before he faces any real consequences??
It really is a divide of the rich and the poor, cause if any of us did just one of the things he’s done there’d be no question, and we’d be behind bars already.Unfortunately, to have a squeaky clean trial the prosecutor and judge need to go above and beyond so there’s zero chance trump can come back and claim bias, and ask for a mistrial.
Stupid, but, not.
and incidentally, this fear of accusation causes an inherent bias in the opposite direction. Slap him in jail already. Communication only through his lawyers. or maybe only through court appointed lawyers. Because, you know, his lawyers are also likely to be criminals.
He has appeals judges partly in his pocket. If they are handed a case with zero objectionable actions by prosecution or the judge, they’re not going to go full-MAGA and say “we’re letting him out anyway”. If they have even the dumbest little technicality, they’re “just doing their job” in freeing him.
Just look at his early SCOTUS appeals.
Never will.
Man, justice sure is swift for the poor and the nameless.
He knows his supporters will do something. He knows them very well.
And, even better, Democrats know they’ll get votes even though they’ve done nothing meaningful to stop it, so why would Trump ever stop?
nothing meaningful? pay closer attention
I suppose it is meaningful, in a way, that they’ve issued a bazillion court orders against him and he’s ignored them all without any accountability.
They’ve made a monster.
Justice system is a separate entity
Yeah, those Democrats really encourage
himRepublicans to be the worse 🙄They absolutely do by deciding not to hold him accountable.
Yeah they should have impeached him for at least a couple different things. And all the Democrats should have voted for it. Oh yeah they did.
WE should have elected more Democrats because all of their votes is not enough when all (or all but a few) Republicans vote to block it. Most things in Congress require more than a 1 vote majority to pass, and Republicans always line up to make sure that doesn’t happen.
Democrats didn’t decide not to hold him accountable. But that is exactly what the Republicans did.
They had the full authority of the Federal Government for two years.
And they let him walk on everything.
Electing Democrats doesn’t accomplish anything. You just make more excuses like you’re doing right now.
Don’t pin Trump’s behavior on us. That’s his responsibility and his alone.
I’d put some of it on the Republicans who enabled him as well as the conservative news organizations and talk radio that have knowingly pumped out propaganda for decades. No Democrats though - which is what you were talking about.
Fair enough, agreed
so you actually just don’t understand a goddamn thing then, cool.
He can always be counted on to go lower.
Do not challenge him to a limbo match.
The cheeseberders would decide the outcome for him.
The man who doesn’t know a consequence from a clitoris again broke the rules. Shocking, I wonder how they’re gonna gently corrale him this time while his supporters go on a murder mission.
I really hope the judge does make a move at this point.
He needs to find Trump in contempt and remand his bail so he has to stay in jail (without social media) until his court date.
plane crash full of Republican “politicians” a la Lynyrd Skynyrd when
I prefer the comparison to Prigozhin myself
a modern take on a classic! 🤌
How could we have predicted such an unprecedented action. /s
Ok it may not violate the gag order because to my knowledge threats again the AG are not covered. However that is a separate crime
Maybe that orange fuck wants to go to jail, so his cesspool raises up.
It’s ridiculous. Any of us would be in jail if we did even a fraction of his antics.
Since people often think that’s a simple matter of different justice for the wealthy or powerful, I feel it is necessary to point out that if Obama had done a small fraction of what Trump is accused of, he would have been executed.
Thanks Obama? /s
we would have been in prison until the trials
We would have been in prison many years ago unless we had money.
Geez he’s a putrid looking individual
That was pretty quick. Who won the pool?
The gag order was on 10/3, so honestly he’s lasted much longer than I thought he would.
Did anyone bet on 1.5 Mooches?
He looks fucked there. Serious addiction funked.
