• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I am not surprised. Part of the 50/50 idea is that people can toss the coin high enough to make an unpredictable number of turns. Which they can’t. I’d be interested in the information how many turns such a coin made before it landed. I’d expect to see a Gauss distribution here, with the center sufficiently off to explain the difference to a true 50/50.

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      i’d more say the point is that you don’t know if it’s gonna be heads or tails, sure maybe one is 60% likely but unless you go out of your way to statistically analyze your flips it’s still perfectly fine for randomly determining between two choices. where it doesn’t matter which one you go with.

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      11 months ago

      I mean yeah they’re different weights on each side. Sand one side, Polish the other and flip them in a vacuum.

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        11 months ago

        The article mentions that’s irrelevant. It’s slightly biased towards the side it started on, no matter if it’s heads of tails.

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          11 months ago

          I mentioned it because as far as I saw they did not specify what coin they used.

          I should be specific, they say 4⁰ someodd coins but don’t mention a control coin or the effect of air.

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            11 months ago

            I mentioned it because as far as I saw they did not specify what coin they used.

            You haven’t actually read the article, have you?

            (…) the authors of the new paper conducted 350,757 flips, using different coins from 46 global currencies to eliminate a heads-tail bias between coin designs. (They also used a variety of people to rule out individuals with biased flipping techniques corrupting the results.) Regardless of the coin type, the same-side outcome could be predicted at 0.508, which rounds up perfectly to Diaconis’ “about 51 percent” prediction from 16 years ago.

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              11 months ago

              I should be specific, they say 4⁰ someodd coins but don’t mention a control coin or the effect of air.

              You should probably reign in that snark as i specifically addressed your point.

              Notably every coin has a face/tail bias because of how much material is removed for the design, a coin with no bias flipped in vacuum should have been the control to remove the design and/or air resistance.