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“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant said. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

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    No electricity, no food, no water…

    If everyday people have the choice of sitting and starving or doing something about it, I doubt many would go quietly into the night.

    Israel will create the next generation of extremists if they do not kill every single person in Gaza. We’ve seen this in every modern Middle East conflict in the past 40 or so years.

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      I always find it odd how people blame “extremists” and the Palestinians for this.

      Israel starts to steal homes, land and killing men, children and women. No one bat an eye to that.

      Then extremists and hate towards Israel came and bam, they are the bad ones suddenly.

      Certainly what Hamas does is entirely wrong however - People cannot expect them be silent and get killed by Israeli forces.

      This is what happens from decades upon decades of oppression.

      This entire conflict was created by Israel stealing land and starting an genocide mission on Palestinians.

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        Israel is colonining with supperior force and mostly quite or support world order.

        Palestinians are fucked. And have been for decades.

        They deff should be fighting for it but this is a futile exercise.

        Either way, the world until recently game Israel blank check but public opinion is changing on these human rights violations by an allegededly modern state.

        Gen Z in the US does seem to be all that interested in continue US support. So Israel got about 20 years to either kill them off or having to deal with palestiains under different political conditions which won’t b as favorable.

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      Even killing every person in Gaza will just bread more extremists. Gazans are not the only Palestinians and they are not the only ones affected by Israeli oppression.

      Israel should negotiate with Hamas NOW and stop the siege on Gaza fully.

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        How do you negotiate with someone that just kidnapped and executed or planning to execute hundreds of civilians?

        What do you ask for here? And what do you give up?

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          Release Palestinians illegally detained by Israel without trial in place fo the hoostages.

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            You know what. Sure. I think Israel will go for this.

            Release of all illegally detained Palestinians.

            In return, Israel gets

            • safe return of all hostages taken
            • complete surrender of all Hamas leadership
            • complete surrender and custody of all Palestinian combatants
            • including anyone who conspired or otherwise assisted in the recent act of terrorism
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              Feels to me like that wouldn’t work on Hamas’ side. Another situation where Israel is the total winner.

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                Well since Hamas has already executed civilians, and Israel has both the military advantage and support of world leaders, they are not exactly negotiating from a position of strength.

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                  11 months ago

                  I don’t think your plan would even remotely lead to a joint country solution, more like Israel just wins.

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                    I didn’t suggest any plan leading to a joint county solution.

                    You know what would not even remotely lead to such a solution? Kidnapping and murdering civilians.

                    Just so we’re clear, everyone loses here. But Israel is not going to negotiate with terrorists, nor should they.

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                  Israel has executed their own disproportionally large share of civilians today.

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          How do you negotiate with someone that just kidnapped and executed or planning to execute hundreds of civilians?

          You don’t. There’s no negotiating with terrorists, it’s too late. There is no good solution. The best Israel can do right now is make every effort to target Hamas, minimize civilian casualties and try to rescue as many people as they can.

          If they go nuts and start trying to exterminate in Gaza they’ll just fuel the next terrorist standoffs and keep this going for several more decades.

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            If they go nuts and start trying to exterminate in Gaza they’ll just fuel the next terrorist standoffs and keep this going for several more decades.

            Hey, guess what’s going to happen!

            I hope I’m wrong.

            But I doubt it.

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              I hope so too, but measured and calm behavior is not what I’ve come to expect from Bibi unfortunately.

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      You think the ones who escape are going to turn over a new leaf? Or the ones looking on from without?

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      I imagine if Germany or Japan had the same mentality, they wouldn’t be where they are now. A good leader would focus on the future of their own people, not bringing them into destruction.