Tesla cut the price of some Model 3 and Model Y versions in the U.S. after the company reported third-quarter deliveries that missed market expectations.

The starting price for the Model 3 is listed at $38,990 on Tesla’s website, down from $40,240 previously. The long range Model 3 fell from $47,240 to $45,990. And the Model 3 Performance fell to $50,990 from $53,240.

Tesla’s Model Y Performance sports utility vehicle now starts at $52,490, down from a previous price of $54,490.

Beginning at the end of last year, Tesla began cutting the prices of its cars across the world in a bid to stoke demand amid concerns over slowing consumer spending in markets like the U.S. and China and as competition in the electric vehicle space ramped up.

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      Knowing he can swoop into Tesla and start making decisions that over rule the experts that work there like he did at twitter should scare people who can’t afford to just buy another EV if it happens to Tesla.

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        “If” it happens to Tesla? Pretty sure the over promising if FSD and the poor build quality have always been Tesla things driven by Musk. Once competition gears up I really hope Tesla improves. It’s actually a fun car to drive just make sure you get one that was built properly and don’t bother with FSD.

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          Look at twitter though, I’m not convinced Tesla cant get much much worse and I think its directly related to how much time Musk spends doing his job there.

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            The difference is Twitter is a private company, and Tesla is public. Meaning he is free to run Twitter into the ground because at the end of the day, it’s his to do as he pleases. But with Tesla, he has to ultimately answer to the share holders, if he starts running amok of the company, they can vote to give him the boot and he can’t really do anything about it.

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      There are quality issues but the success of Tesla was mostly due to the hype created by Elon, now that most of the people that care the most about the environment dislike Elon of course their sales drop

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        The success was because for a solid 5 years, the Model 3/Y were the only widely available long range EVs.

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        The people that care the most about the environment aren’t buying electric cars at all. That’s not the solution.

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          For most of us that’s the best solution we can do. I’ve already cut out all the waste I can, I grow my own vegetables, I’m getting rain barrels and compost for my garden, I tried to get solar but the cost was too prohibitive here, I have shopped non-plastic alternatives everywhere i can, I limit travel as much as I’m allowed, but I need to drive to work like most Americans. My government will not be expanding public transit, there’s no interest at the federal or state levels and my local level just throws up racist dogwhistles about crime spreading if they add trains or buses every time the public petitions for it.

          An electric car is the best I can do, I won’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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          In the US we live where options other than cars simply aren’t subsidized or funded meaningfully for transit. This means yeah people who have to survive are going to be buying cars if they need them.

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            Keeping one’s existing car if less than 20 years old, or buying a used efficient hybrid or used electric would both go further than buying a brand new electric. The typical capitalism throwaway wasteful lifestyle of the last century isn’t going to stop climate change, even if it has a cute green leaf icon on the dashboard.

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          You’re letting perfection be the enemy of good. There will never be a perfect solution, especially for the end consumer.

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          Let me guess: nuclear and next gen thorium reactors. lol.

          2010 called. They want their power utility talking points back.

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          You’re right. They’re buying F150s and Expeditions because that’s much better for us.

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      I was drawn to them when they were new and different and it seemed like some of the problems were just growing pains. Now it seems like Tesla started as a great idea and quickly got steamrolled into a clown show like everything else Elon touches. At one point I wanted a model 3 but now I’d rather have a gas electric hybrid like a Prius or something and an ebike or scooter.

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      You mean added ad content that’s not removable or blockable, charging a subscription for no new features, and blocking users he doesn’t like.

      Yeah I’m not buying a car from a megalomaniac that might flip the switch for Tesla over 6 months to become his new biggest ad/subscription machine.

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      People here act like he murdered babies and reimplemented slavery. dude just says some stupid shit on twitter, a platform he overpaid for. y’all should be happy he’s pushing people to alternative social media platforms.

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        I think you’re minimizing the damage he is causing with his platform. He is saying and, allowing to be said, the quiet parts out loud representing the worst parts of humanity and, because it’s his platform literally, no one can stop him.

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          Can you point to some of the things he said that are particular egregious? And please don’t deflect onto another topic if possible

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            Honestly, if you need examples enumerated you are likely part of the problem

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              That’s a neat trick to get out of backing up your statement. You said he’s saying the quiet parts out loud, I’m a little baffled on what you are referring to.

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    It’s falling because the cars are garbage. Slightly cutting the prices doesn’t make them any less garbage. You could get an EV from a reputable brand for much less.

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        The bolt ev/euv is cheaper and has all the features except an “autopilot”, which is a plus that your car won’t kill you

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      I don’t know why Lemmy hates Tesla so much. Hate Elon, sure, he’s probably behind the crazy quotas leading to poor build quality and definitely behind overselling FSD, but if it wasn’t for Tesla we would still have no viable EVs. I hope competition makes a good one soon but right now Tesla is the best EV with the best charging network. Lots of people are driving them now.

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        They’re hellishly expensive cars. They harvest data, and if you opt out your car may become useless. They exaggerate the car statistics, like driving range. The build quality is frequently poor, with visible panel gaps (that cheap-arse Dacias don’t even have), rear bumpers that fall off due to rainfall, they are prone to rust, and the FSD despite clearly not being “fully self driving” or even road safe is available as an extra subscription, that people actively pay for and make use of making the roads less safe.

        That’s just the tip of the iceberg as well. Like how replacing the battery costs as much as buying a new car. Or the fact that the already shitty battery life gets even worse when it gets cold, leading to people getting stuck on the motorway in the winter, forcing them to get a taxi and abandon their car.

        Perhaps Tesla started off well back in the late 00s, but Musk’s been doing nothing but bullshit since the moment he got his grubby little hands on the thing. There are awful stories coming from the factories involving racism, frequent injuries (the factory in Germany is laughable, and it’s shocking it hasn’t been shut down), and really worrying things have been said even about the software its running on.

        Then there’s all the weird-ass design decisions, like replacing the steering wheel with a yoke, without adding servo steering meaning it’s just a malshaped steering wheel. They’ve also paved the way for bullshit capacitive touch areas rather than buttons, and tacked actual important functions like turn signals on them.

        If you accidentally caress the fart button and make the bloody thing do lmao memez hilariouz farting, no one gets injured. Miscommunicating your intention in traffic could lead to deaths.

        It’s a bad company, and they’re bad cars.

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      Please list the cars available “for much less” with equivalent range. We’ll wait.

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        The marketing stated range or the actual range, cause reality is a removed

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          That is an odd flex considering Tesla is currently being sued for lying about that very thing.

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        Range, performance, and features. I hate Musk as much as the next person, but let’s not act like Teslas aren’t the standard for EVs price-to-performance wise.

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    Who in their right mind, after seeing Elon Musk destroy Twitter at the behest of the Saudis, all while supporting antidemocratic Fascists from every corner of the globe, buy one of his Fascistmobiles and fly his Fascist flag?

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      I love Teslas and hate Elon. Have family members who feel the same and own Teslas. The cars are amazing, fun, cool, and made by people who aren’t Elon. He will never make me hate Tesla. Also, friendly reminder that Ford is heavily responsible for EVs not existing decades sooner, Toyota donated more than any company to Jan6 Republicans, and the average car CEO is a piece of shit. Elon is just an outspoken piece of shit.

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      Or work at any of his companies. Would like to hear from lemmy users working for him.

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        A lot of folks work in those factories that have no idea about Elon, other than that he’s rich. So many folks don’t bother to stay informed.

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          More thinking all those vps, managers, hr, engineers, customer service, sales, marketing etc. they obviously are well informed and choose to stay.

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          I really doubt this for factories in the US. Whether you follow celebrity news or not, Musk’s name is all over the place for one reason or another. US workers absolutely know what’s going on.

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            As one of those workers, you’d be astonished at the misinformation I hear coming out of my coworkers mouths. Now mind you, I don’t work for Tesla, but I’m absolutely more informed than the vast majority of my coworkers.

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    I’m in the market for a new car. Probably an electric. Sometime in the next 3-5 years. I’ll be fucked if I even consider one of this douchecunt’s cars.

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        Wrong. Plugin hybrids are the worst of both worlds. You have extra complexity and maintenance requirements on top of reduced efficiency. EVs are the future and the charging infrastructure is only getting better. Reselling any ICE car within the next few years is going to be a losing proposition.

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        Seems like anything you buy is somewhat of a gamble. Internal combustion engines/gasoline could be gone or (more likely) far less desirable in 10 years. As manufacturers begin switching to primarily electric cars, finding parts/labor for these vehicles may become challenging. With a hybrid, I wonder if you carry all the same risks (as far as the long term value of the vehicle) as a normal gasoline-powered car.

        But maybe the timeline for this is more like 20 years.

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    In 2021, I almost bought a Tesla, but needed a car quickly and they had a long wait. I’d still consider it but it has now become clear that Elon Musk sucks, so I’ll never buy one.

    My next car will be an EV from literally any other company.

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      Fwiw my Bolt has been rock solid so far. I’m getting about 240 miles per charge (to 90%, not full). It’s a city driver though, I wouldn’t plan to take it on a road trip

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      I’d avoid VW too, honestly. They were had to build out Electrify America because they cheated with emissions. They clearly do not give a shit about it and their charging stations are continually rated the worst.

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        Yeah, used to own VWs. They are shit cars and that’s why I stopped buying them, but the emissions cheating was also a nail in the coffin for my consideration of them.

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      You can’t really get away from Tesla chargers though if you need to do a road trip. Happily, many other brands are adopting the standard so I think soon anyone can use them.

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    Too expensive to run proper power to my garage to go electric. My main panel is in the basement on the other side of my house.

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      I also had this problem. I was lucky enough to have an electric dryer plug near the garage, and got a “splitvolt” brand switching box, which is awesome.

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        I do have an electric dryer plug on the other side of one of the walls as well. Hmmm. I need to look into this

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          If you take a look at the socket, the ones with three prongs are not recommended but it is possible they were installed with a 4th wire in the cable but the socket is 3 prong. I replaced my 3 prong socket with 4 prong one (the 4th wire is ground, crazy stupid to not use it.) Cheap and 26 amps at 220-240 volts.

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            Obviously you don’t need one, but for those who may benefit: I’ve been using a weird 3 prong to 4 prong plug adapter for several years now without trouble. It has a ground wire that you plug into the ground slot of a nearby outlet, so it’s quite safe.

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              Yes, you can do that, but remember that if there is a critical problem that forces the complete current into the ground wire, rare. the ground wire from a smaller socket is also likely to be smaller gauge wire. You will likely end up with the same problem of not having a ground wire as the donor ground could just burn up. You can reduce the possibility of the donor socket ground wire from burning by not allowing anything else to use the socket/wireloop(if there is more than one socket using the same breaker switch).

              This is not proper electrical code, but there is no reason to stop using these cords as the possibility of catastrophic failure from causing much harm. As usual, I would err on the side of safety and suggest getting a professional to work on it and using the proper socket for the plug.

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                Thanks for the info. That would be a crazy, albeit still possible, situation. I’m going to keep using my plug, mostly because I’m renting. Don’t tell my landlord.