I found some reading but would like some help understanding/different interpretations

  • Red Phoenix@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    Ok, but that still doesn’t explain why the illusion of choice is better than than no illusion from a deterministic standpoint.

    Also, it doesn’t make sense to say that properties can emerge from things in which those properties weren’t already present in some way. If consciousness can arise from a combination of particles then that implies that particles have mental properties, which I don’t think a materialist or a determinist would want to argue.

    • Deer Tito (She/Her)@lemmygrad.ml
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      that still doesn’t explain why the illusion of choice is better than than no illusion from a deterministic standpoint.

      It isn’t my opinion that the illusion is better or worse, but that it just is.

      it doesn’t make sense to say that properties can emerge from things in which those properties weren’t already present in some way.

      In the same way the property of being able play guitar isn’t a property of any of the cells in my body, it becomes possible when the brain, millions of sensory receptors, muscle fibers, neurons etc. are in a system together and interact with each other. It is my belief that in the same way, consciousness and then free will occurs when all of the neurons in the brain get stimulated by external factors, and hormones, and so on in the body.

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        You haven’t provided a reason for the illusion of free will. If we can’t provide a good reason or explanation for something then that should be a red flag for us to reexamine our belief and why we think that is true.

        The ability or instructions of how to play the guitar does need to be present in some way in the cells and everything else though. The particle has to “know” how to perform in concert with everything else in order to make music happen. One particle may just be one building block, or one piece of the puzzle, but it still has to know exactly what to do in its role in order to play a song, in the same way a particle “knows” how to obey all the laws of physics, and how to behave in every situation because they are innate in every particle.