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Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) introduced a resolution Monday evening to remove Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) from his seat, triggering an expected intraparty clash and setting up a showdown for the House to decide whether to depose McCarthy likely within 48 hours.
Gaetz and a handful of hard-right Republicans have repeatedly threatened to go after McCarthy’s speakership if he relied on Democratic votes to pass any spending legislation, which happened Saturday after McCarthy could not get a majority of Republicans to support various proposals to fund the government with only GOP votes. Using a motion to vacate, a single person can force the House to consider removing the speaker. McCarthy agreed to lowering the threshold for bringing the motion to win over enough support to become speaker in January.
“It is going to be difficult for my Republican friends to keep calling President Biden feeble while he continues to take Speaker McCarthy’s lunch money,” Gaetz said. "Members of the Republican Party might vote differently on a motion to vacate if they heard what the speaker had to share with us about his secret side deal with Joe Biden on Ukraine. I’ll be listening. Stay tuned.”
But it’s not clear Gaetz has 218 votes needed to remove McCarthy without himself relying on Democratic votes. If successful, the motion would not remove McCarthy from the House, but from his leadership position alone. If McCarthy is successfully removed, both Democrats and Republicans worry they will be in a speakership election fight that could drag on for days, blunting progress on passing full year appropriation bills before government funding runs out in mid-November.
The pursuit to depose McCarthy as speaker has alarmed many House Republicans, possibly setting up an internal civil war between staunch allies of McCarthy and those who have pressured him repeatedly with a variety of, at times unrealistic, demands. The effort also likely would force McCarthy and his allies to strategize with Democrats, further irritating the hard-right, because the minority party will play a determinative role in whether McCarthy can hold onto his leadership seat.
House Democrats have begun to discuss how they would handle a potential challenge to McCarthy’s speakership. House Minority Whip Rep. Katherine M. Clark (Mass.), in a note to Democrats Sunday told them to be ready for a motion to oust McCarthy as speaker “at any time, including Monday.” She did not indicate any preference in how to vote, adding that “we will have a Caucus wide discussion on how to address the motion to best meet the needs of the American people.”
As weird as it is, I think the democrats should save McCarthy. He’s a wretched asshole but the GOP isn’t going to replace him with anyone better. It also looks like he’ll ultimately take action when dire consequences are on the line. And let’s face it; the moonbats on the far right want him gone so they can elect Trump to the post.
No
The compromise is Jeffries is Speaker and split the committees evenly. Otherwise they can roast in their own shit.
I would hope that the Democrats would only back Kevin McCarthy on the condition that he ends the impeachment hearings he began last week in a dumb, failed attempt to appease his right wing and avoid the shutdown.
If they save McCarthy or if they can get moderate republicans lined up behind a more moderate R to take over, I think the requirement for support should be an increase in House comity and compromise. As much as I’d prefer a full progressive caucus running things, having a functional Congress would be preferable to what we have. I would support backing a center coalition that doesn’t get derailed by the current Republican war on culture.
Exactly. Not only is McCarthy not completely insane, but supporting him would drive a further wedge between fiscal conservatives and MAGA nuts. Democrats get credit for being reasonable and keeping congress running, they hurt McCarthy by making him out to be a RINO who deals with democrats, they make MAGA representatives look even more unreasonable, and they defang MAGA nuts by removing their ability to threaten McCarthy with removal.
David Joyce is a reasonable moderate R, they throw it to him they could split the party.
Huh… devil you know vs the devil you don’t.
Hypothetically—say McCarthy’s butt is saved—What’s preventing the Republicans from immediately voting to dismiss him again?
Assuming Democrats were willing to save him, all involved could voluntarily vote McCarthy out (breaking that 1 vote requirement) then McCarthy could run again, this time with Democratic backing and not needing to agree to the 1 vote thing again. After that there would be no 1 vote requirement and McCarthy would be Speaker.