• some_guy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Part of the issue is past revolutions didn’t have a ruling class that literally employed the best psychologists that money can buy

    They absolutely did, except they weren’t called psychologists and they were much less effective.

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      weren’t called psychologists and they were much less effective.

      So literally not the same thing, then?

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        Well if it’s not literally not the same thing, then it has zero bearing on the situation!

        Absolutism is the death of intelligent discourse.

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        If I call it a trowel and you call it a spade, they’re not different things.

        If mine is made of paper and yours is made of aluminum, they’re still not different things.

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          Except one of them has a history of the science of psychology behind it, as well as the many certifications and education you need to be a psychologist, and the other was a propagandist with no deep scientific education behind them, no showing why the techniques they were using were effective (because they often weren’t). One of them has evidence and science behind them and the other does not. They are not the same things.

          Literally different things.

          EDIT: Also it is worth noting that modern propaganda began after revolutions against monarchies. The French state post-revolution was a hotbed of propaganda.

          So, even by your argument, its clear that modern propaganda methods took root after the age of revolutions and at the beginning of the age of Nations.