Idk, doesn’t matter where I go, be it Political Memes, Politics, Elon Musk Spam, etc, it seems everyone hates on capitalism all together-
Because capitalism is burning the earth down for profit and if nothing is done we’re all dead soon ?
we’re all dead soon
That’s a bit… extreme. We’re all going to be dead soon? You mind elaborating a bit?
Climate change, sea level rising, populations moving to an already overpopulated land mass, wars, pandemics… Capitalism is killing us slowly but surely. And “soon” is a figure of speech, it might take a while but compared to humanity span it’s soon enough. Some might survive, but on the long term humanity is running head first into a wall. We might have the time to change course and only get a few bruises, but the no return point is way past.
Well like everything, capitalism too has its downsides and there’s plenty to improve on, but it’s quite difficult to see how ending capitalism and replacing it with what ever you think it should be replaced with would end stuff like wars or pandemics. Ending capitalism would definitely end certains issues caused by it, but along would come a set of new issues we’re probably not having to deal with now.
capitalism too has its downsides and there’s plenty to improve on
No I think you don’t understand. Capitalism allows rich people to get richer by exploiting the resources of the earth at the expand of the climate and poor people altogether. It’s not something that can be improved, it’s something that needs to be stopped ASAP.
And there isn’t ONE solution to “replace” capitalism, like communism or socialism or whatever, it’s all about solutions to each problems : ban private jets, yacht, and stuff like that ; taxing the rich to stop them hoarding all the wealth, more carbon taxes to force companies into being more eco friendly, banning stuff made by slavery, children, and underpaid workers in far countries, favor locally grown goods, raise the minimum wage, etc.
It’s gonna be hard for everyone but it’s the only way to stop fucking everything up. Capitalism is a cancer that needs to be removed or it will grow until it kill its host. Only the rich will survive, all of us will die slowly.
You first say it’s not something that can be improved and then you list a bunch of ways to improve it. This is exactly my point.
If you want, but we need to get rid of the capital, stock markets, and all other stuff defining capitalism for this shit to work. Capitalism is based on infinite growth, it’s not sustainable.
…and replace them with what? I mean, it’s a nice fantasy that’s there’s abundance of everything, nothing costs anything and we’re all just dancing in a circle singing kumbaya happily ever after. However, if you really want to live in a world like that, then you need to come up with some system of economy to produce this abundance. Now you’re just listing things you want to get rid of but you’re giving none and I literally mean zero suggestions how to get there.
Most people dislike that everything is being dragged down for profit margins instead of taking care of humanity
Because a majority of people are left sided. There’s a reason Trump hasn’t been able to win a popular vote, he’s not actually that popular. He might seem it in uneducated redneck towns, but it takes about 100 of those towns to match the population of a decent city, which typically votes left.
Capitalism and the right is literally against humanity for the benefit of the very few. You’ll wake up eventually
we can hope that enough of them will wake up eventually, before it’s too late.
otherwise a lot of people aren’t going to wake up at all, I’m any sense, ever again.
Lol
Because a lot of tech culture is based upon the idea of sharing things with people, of enabling others, of bringing down barriers, of helping other people reach their potential. This is why open source communities are so prevalent, and even commercial tech offerings are sold to us with these ideals.
And all that is antithetical to many right wing policies, which are often about creating barriers and unneccessary limitations. Like DeSantis’s Don’t Say Gay laws. Or the defunding of community services like educational institutes. Or placing barriers on voting.
Also the Nazis already have X: The Everything App™ they don’t need this
“Reality has a well-known liberal bias” Steven Colbert
Close: “Reality has a well-known liberal bias.”
Because capitalism is the problem, not the solution.
To try to give you a genuine answer, perhaps because 1) Lemmy is a left leaning environment generally, 2) if you’re American, because the majority of the western and 1st world countries are dramatically more left leaning than the US (I live in Canada, and your democrats are more right wing than our main right wing political party)
I live in Canada, and your democrats are more right wing than our main right wing political party
The same is true when comparing these ‘democrats’ to the main right wing political parties of any European country.
here in NZ, our last right-wing leader laughed aloud when asked if he was religious, on national tv, and said no.
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Very well stated 👍 My version would be a little simpler though…
“Hey, let’s throw more money at the planet, see if it cares…”
Money means squat if we’re not doing the right things for the wet blue marble we live on.
Common sense?
if only it was (common)…
Honest answer the right doesn’t seem to have any good positions now. They are against fighting climate change, against tolerance, anti-science, and they speak of fiscal responsibility but instead of tax and spend they just spend. They are way too much into mindless defiance and dirty politics. And they are the most hypocritical “do as I say, not as I do” party IMO.
Thanks, you are civilized, different from the others, also, yeah, I know that the US right wing is batshit insane, but yeah, I don’t agree in capitalism = bad, I like the way it works, but we should actually focus on decreasing inequality and give opportunity to everyone
I didn’t mention capitalism but meant to, I think capitalism itself is great but like so many other things it needs limits. Huge mega corporations have a lot of disadvantages for the environment, competitors, customer service, and consumer choice.
Big brain ngl
older, wealthy, not so terminally online people are overrepresented amongst the political right. young people, who are typically less wealthy, and who identify more with things that have only recently become more socially acceptable, such as alternate sexuality or gender, are typically less served by the political right, and since they have a much larger online presence, the views they hold are much more accepted and voiced in most online spaces.
It’s possible that Lemmy in general is leftist because the people who came here wanted faster and more effective moderation against hate speech whereas more right wing people didn’t have a particularly strong need or desire for moderation.
I guess you never saw the amount of bans r/conservative issued to keep their hate train echo chamber rolling
The left wants to be free from the right. The right needs toe left to troll. right wingers hate being around themselves and no one else
(…)because the people who came here wanted faster and more effective moderation against hate speech
Interesting, as Lemmy (especially lemmy.ml) was created actually for the opposite reason - less “censorship” (of developers’ Communist, “Marxist-Leninist” views). That’s how e.g. mod logs came up. And Beehaw (one of Lemmy instances) has complained about lack of moderation instruments.
And the migration from Reddit was unlike that from Twitter. Spez ruined Reddit for anyone, Musk more for left wing and minorities.
Rightwingers more likely to return to current Reddit? I am seeing no clue to this.
Because the type of people satisfied with the status quo are not, in general, the kind of people who are early adopters of anything new.
The anti-capitalism sentiment is interesting. While the issues with it are obvious to everyone, the solution is not. Atleast not to me. If you just end capitalism, it’s going to be miserable for everyone. You need to replace it with something better. People however don’t seem to think it this far, or if they do, then for some reason they don’t want to discuss that, and get angry for even asking. Just having a vague idea is not good enough. This isn’t the kind of stuff you figure out on the go.
Even now, I’ll probably just get downvoted and labeled a right wing capitalist, because that’s easier than answering the actual question.
It’s strange to me that Capitalism, as described by Adam Smith (but labelled such by Marx), is supposed to serve the common good, and included gov’t intervention in markets. I’m OK with that idea. I lean way more left of that, but if Capitalists here and elsewhere didn’t bend over to defend gross wealth inequality, cry about helping society as a whole, and actually studied differences in economic theories and practice I wouldn’t think most of them are assholes.
Based as well :)
You got two Niko points! 1: I agree with you! 2: You are acting civilized, different from most of our brothers :D
