You can debate the need to arrest, but creating a ruse that ends up with the man being shot several times?

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    This whole story seems like an outlier there aren’t homeless people living in campers all over the US. It does seem sketchy about being plain clothes and the ruse they used. The largest factor though is as many people have pointed out on both sides, is he pulled and pointed a gun. You can argue all day that he didn’t shoot and he was just defending his brother. Any person with any firearms training knows you don’t point a gun unless you are willing to fire at whoever or whatever that is. A gun is a deadly weapon so as soon as someone points a gun at a person then they are threatening them. End of debate about that. Like I said the lead up to it is questionable but he would not have been shot if he didn’t pull a gun which would imply he intended to shoot them. Just like most “questionable” police shootings. Why did the person pull a gun? They intended to use it. I’m so sick of the police brutality speech. Are there incidents of police brutality yes. They are actually few and far between. The vast majority are people with criminal records and then they pull a weapon on the police. It’s amazing this is actually a story since he’s white. Every year there are more white people shot by police than any other race but funny enough you don’t hear about that. This obviously wasn’t about race it was just a series of mistakes. In conclusion if you pull a weapon on police let alone a gun then why are you surprised you got shot.

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      Had the police shown up in uniform and acted professionally this man wouldn’t have been shot.

      The behavior of the police led to the shooting. The man thought he was in danger and pulled a firearm to protect his brother and himself.

      This will take time but the cops will be charged over this.

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        Oregon you don’t dispute the fact that he pulled his gun and that’s why he got shot. So say the police already had their guns pulled then would he be justified if he had shot them? I already acknowledged the whole set up with the plain clothes thing was sketch. It doesn’t matter if you are in a uniform or you are in a shirt and shorts. If you pull a gun on someone the intention is that you are going to use it so that’s that.

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      Rule 2 reminder: If you’re here to support the police, you’re trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.

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        Doug Holland so supporting the police is trolling? Are you one of those genius defund the police folks. That has worked out so well. It’s really amazing and I’m still trying to figure it out. So when there are less police then there is more crime. It’s a really puzzling phenomenon.

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          Rule 2: If you’re here to support the police, you’re trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.

          Banned.