• boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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      Yeah. They think they can be capitalists, conservatives and libs at the same time like wtf

      One should either want people to be liberated from capitalist hierarchies or conserve them, there’s no both

      Remember comrades, don’t trust and repeat the capitalist redefining of words. North Americans might have a hard time learning out of the programming.

      Using their apologia language just serves them and none sustain critical evaluation.

      “Neoliberal” = pure capitalist conservatism. “Economic liberalism/free markets” same bullshit. All trying to maintain the status quo anti-liberal hierarchy.

      Edit: sorry for hurting capitalist feelings that are in some of the comments

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        Liberalism is the ideology that justifies the continued existence of capitalism, and in that ideology there are social factions with tactical disagreements about how best to manage and justify capitalism, this usually manifests as a cultural divide among conservative liberals and social liberals, but both of them are subsumed by the current mass iteration of liberalism we call neoliberalism

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        Liberals are capitalists because they believe in the ‘freedom’ of markets. Liberalism does not refer to freedom from hierarchy, it refers to freedom from feudalism and feudal dues, specifically. The freedom of private property.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        What is your definition of liberal?

        Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism and encompasses all liberal tendencies - conservatives, social liberals, dem socs, libertarians etc. If you’re defining it in a unique way you should let us know so we can understand what you mean