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    We need to see some pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around… There’s been a systemic change where the employees feel that the employer is extremely lucky to have them, as opposed to the other way around.

    So said every vicious aristocrat throughout history.

    Whether owner of slaves, serfs or workers - elites always believe it’s their right to inflict harm on others.

    Eat the rich, put us out of their misery.

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          Killing people is not okay. You should treat others the way you would want to be treated yourself.

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            I agree in part, Im not particularly a fan of all the death threats myself.

            But do the billionaires treat us the way they want to be treated?

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          For extra fun, keep telling them that “at any point the Governor might call with a last minute reprieve.”

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      As long as you commodify my labor, it has value.

      Whose labor generates more value? The worker, who creates the product being sold to generate profit, or the boss who manages them?

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        Without the boss, there wouldn’t be the worker or the company. Let’s not pretend that the entire management does nothing.

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          But in all seriousness, think of strikes and the inherent power of labor.

          How come management never strikes?

          When workers strike and there are no workers in the building, the day comes to a screeching halt and NOTHING happens.

          If there are no managers in the building, business continues as usual. Because it happens all of the fucking time. That’s why your manager can go on vacation for weeks at a time and nobody gives a shit, but you’re lucky if you get 5 days in a whole calendar year.

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          Yes. What ever did humanity do for work before the invention of middle management?

          It must have been chaos. Bedlam, even!

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            Since you’re describing a society with no infrastructure whatsoever, yeah, basically.

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              No hierarchy doesn’t mean the same as no infrastructure and never has.

              It’s a commonly repeated lie to equate them as meaning the same thing.

              EDIT: Middle management is also a phenomenon of the Industrial Era. Prior to industrialization, humanity (and jobs) existed for thousands of years.

              According to some here, that is impossible.

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                “Middle management” as a concept is simply “someone gives you directives and you give someone else directives” and that is literally as old as society itself.

                The Mayans didn’t build highways through a fucking jungle without middle management, and they were most definitely not “industrialized.”

                Also the whole “middle management bad” meme is pants on head stupid. Almost as stupid as your interest in going back to subsistence farming.

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                  I never implied a necessary return to subsistence farming. I said that hierarchy is not necessary for society to exist, but you continue to equate the two.

                  Mayans didn’t build highways, because the technology and the necessity were not present. But they did build roads. And bridges. And pressurized aqueducts. And they did it without an “Assistant Director of Construction.”

                  Y’know. Infrastructure. With limited hierarchy.

                  Saying that human civilization and the necessary infrastructure to support it is impossible without traditional corporate hierarchy isn’t just wrong, it’s fucking propaganda. And it’s propaganda designed specifically to depress the value of labor.

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          Most companies’ performance do not have any correlation to upper management’s actions

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      We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around

      Oh and I was sitting here thinking, that employers and employees share a mutually profitable relationship. Employees provide services to employers and employers provide financial gains for their employees.

      But no, modern slavery it is. Alright.