• lonewalk@lemm.ee
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    Godspeed Godot, fuck every single tech company enshittifying the whole sector to hell.

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      Godot’s only issue is the lack of console support, but that’s because they can’t get the licenses as an open source project.

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        The Godot developers created a new business entity that will facilitate porting games to closed platforms.

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          I was going to say, I know Cassette Beasts released on Switch and it uses the Godot engine, so there’s no way it doesn’t support consoles.

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            It essentially allows for special closed source builds. These closed source builds can have the engine support for consoles and still be in keeping with Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo’s licenses.

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              I didn’t know that. How do the developers get access to these builds? Are they sold? Or do they need to build it themselves?

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                  This, right here.

                  Hey EU. How about lowering that barrier to entry by pumping a couple of million Euro’s into cold-room reverse engineering the API’s and developing an open source alternative that can be distributed freely.

                  We’ll invite Sony lawyers, Microsoft lawyers, watch them cope and seethe as their framework is made more open…

                  …aaaand then realising that a lot more people will take the shot to pay for actual licensing. Go figure.

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                    You’re still going to need them to sign your binary for the console to recognize it as legit.

                    Circumventing the official path worked back in the 80s and 90s, but modern consoles and their SDKs were designed with those lessons in mind.

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        I am not sure this is something other engines even offered at this level, but my issue is bindings support.

        3.X had (3rd-party) production-ready bindings, even for niche languages.

        4.X, with hopes of improving support for compiled languages, has a new bindings system meaning that all bindings need to be redone as a new effort. This happened with the language that I’m interested in, the group that made the production-ready 3.X bindings abdicated the crown and there have been splintered efforts by individuals to work on 4.X bindings.

        So it (3.X vs 4.X) is language vs engine features. When/if 4.X bindings do come out, it is not known how similar they will be so (aside from non-Godot-specific code) that will likely add complication to it as well.


        I don’t really care about consoles (needing to jump through hoops to develop for it is one reason) so a different potential issue would web export limitations. Both for different languages and for visual quality (AA). Those were issues in the past, though I’m not actually sure where they’re at now (the 4.1 docs do say you can’t have C# web exports in 4.X).

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      I’m all for Godot getting better; that said, has Epic, Open3D, or Crytek made similar moves?

      (I know Crytek isn’t much of a player currently, but as someone who’s been following them closer in recent years, it really seems like they got their house back in order)

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        I think epic made their engine more appealing by waiving some Epic Games Store charges for Unreal games. And had a no fee until 1m earnings thing. Not this kind of shit.