The drama around the new movie and the lead being Black and how crackers are crying over it has convinced me that rhe dissolution of white America, and all manner of Indigenous and Black and marginalized nationalisms are legitimate.

Reparations are legitimate. Black and Indigenous independent capital are legitimate. Black and Indigenous socialism is legitimate. Land Back is legitimate. Total defeat of white armies is legitimate. Expulsion of white people back to Europe and being excommunicated from the western hemisphere is legitimate.

The only thing whiteness understands is conflict and domination. whites deserve ZERO ACCESS to any form of land or resource or labor that involves any Indigenous or nonwhite effort.

I dont think anyone can convince me that white people want peace. The abused should be able to evict their abusers.

I cant stand it. whiteness is just insanity. Antisocial, desperately hateful madness. Its only defining characteristics is just what it supposedly isnt and what it is opposed to. A means of defining an enemy. That is all whiteness is. A retreat from humanity and a search for an enemy. Because if it didnt have an adversary, whiteness would have no concrete meaning.

If ANY self determination movement or anticolonial movenent has the ability to expel their exploiters and colonizers, not only should they, but they are obliged. And no. white people dont get a chance to understand it if and when it happens.

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    The leveling force is Socialism. It is the guarantees of a decent living, it is the process for the abolition of class, race, and sexual disparities. White Supremacy is enforced through the gatekeeping of wealth and resources (as is patriarchy), if we take away that ability, Whiteness collapses. Whiteness will then only be a construct of individual bigotry, which erodes itself when confronted with reality. We need to target the key processes that allow the social reproduction of White Supremacy, Patriarchy, and Capitalism as a whole.

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      This is my main thing. Socialism should dissolve all these contradictions that exist right now, right? Or am I seeing this too simplistic?

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          I feel lost in this entire conversation really. I think I don’t understand what’s going on lol.

          What exactly is the point of decolonization and how does it differ from communism?

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            Decolonization needs to happen before Communism, it is a Socialist process.

            But the gist of decolonization is to remove the colonial structures of a colonial society. Colonialism isn’t about migration (people moving to a new land), it’s about resource extraction, genocide, and land grabbing (settlerism). Decolonization means to give the colonized people their autonomy over their lands back. In the case of Vietnam, it was about expelling French, Japanese, and American colonists. They didn’t kick out all White people and the Japanese, they allowed those who wanted to participate in the revolution and stay within the Vietnamese nation. There are examples of white and Japanese people who joined the Viet Cong.

            However, settler societies like in the Americas are much older than Asian colonial societies, the conditions are different. American settlers vastly out populate the colonized peoples. Decolonization in America looks different than in China, Vietnam, and South Africa. This is still an open question, so don’t expect for answers to exist right now, but understand that colonized peoples should be the main voices we listen to.

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              This makes more sense to me than other comments in this thread, and is actually in line with what I had in mind. Thanks for clearing this up.