• xT1TANx@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It only took 250 years since the industrial revolution to utterly doom our world.

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      1 year ago

      Oh, our world will be fine, it’s not the Earth’s first mass extinction event. We - and a lot of flora and fauna we depend on - are really fucked though.

      • ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        I hate seeing this take repeated. Just because there have been other mass extinction events doesn’t mean the earth will be fine this time. If we fuck things up bad enough it will cause a runaway greenhouse effect. At which point the earth will not be fine, because it will be Venus 2.0. Additionally if we kill ourselves off but somehow fall short of that point, who cares if the earth will be fine in our absence? As far as we’re aware we are the only sapient life in the universe. This dismissive, humanity hating attitude that its fine if we die off because the planet won’t literally cease to exist, is so dumb. How about if we just be better instead of going extinct?

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        1 year ago

        It’s an interesting mass extinction event, too. Have we ever seen one species balloon to such predominance? Humans are like 80% of mammalian biomass on the planet. Definite loss of biodiversity. I wonder if it’s a loss of biomass too.

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        1 year ago

        Man we still fucked it all up though

        • optissima@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          I think they meant we’re from Central Africa and technically an invasive species anywhere else in the world.

          • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org
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            I thought invasive implied a species was moved by another. I don’t think a species can be invasive just for moving north or something. Humans moved themselves gradually over time.

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              1 year ago

              A quick search defines invasive species as a type of introduced species, which is outlined as

              An introduced species, alien species, exotic species, adventive species, immigrant species, foreign species, non-indigenous species, or non-native species is a species living outside its native distributional range, but which has arrived there by human activity, directly or indirectly, and either deliberately or accidentally.

              So I’d say that technically they are, but even more to the point it seems like the invasive species definition is very human centric (an alien cannot create an invasive species?)

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                1 year ago

                Obviously this is a super semantically oriented discussion but I don’t think it’s a stretch to say human in this context really refers more to the role. Humans can control other species in that way, like an extra terrestrial also likely could have.

                I’m not saying I agree with the idea, I’m just looking for a way humans could be “invasive”

            • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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              They adapted the definition to include causing economic or environmental harm because NERDS kept pointing out that all species are either constantly invading new territory or in the process of going extinct.

              • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org
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                1 year ago

                Lol yes if I’m not full on agent-from-the-matrix “humans are a virus” that means I’m a buffoon incapable of introspection. What’s definitely not the case? You are certainly not a jaded weirdo who isn’t particularly good with words and is looking to shit on humans as a species. Yep definitely not that.