With the Voice to Parliament Referendum date announced to be October 14 2023, this thread will run in the lead up to the date for general discussions/queries regarding the Voice to Parliament.
The Proposed Constitutional Amendment
Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples
129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice
In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:
there shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice; the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples; the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.
Past Discussions
Here are some previous posts in this community regarding the referendum:
- The Voice referendum official Yes/No pamphlets
- Linda Burney says there is everything to gain and nothing to lose by supporting the Voice
- Families distressed after ‘highly misleading’ video used by anti-Voice campaigners goes viral
- The Indigenous Voice to Parliament – separating fact from fiction | 7.30
- 10 questions about the Voice to Parliament - answered by the experts
- The yes pamphlet: campaign’s voice to parliament referendum essay – annotated and factchecked
- Fact-checking for the “No” referendum pamphlet was not compulsory
Common Misinformation
- “The Uluru Statement from the Heart is 26 Pages not 1” - not true
Government Information
- Referendum question and constitutional amendment
- voice.gov.au - General information about the Voice
Amendments to this post
If you would like to see some other articles or posts linked here please let me know and I’ll try to add it as soon as possible.
- Added the proposed constitutional amendment (31/08/2023)
- Added Common Misinformation section (01/07/2023)
Discussion / Rules
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Regardless of how this all rolls, actual treaty with the individual indigenous nations will be beginning soon. Just watch.
I’ve been lucky enough to have family involved deeply in this, and the voice, whilst positive, is a bit of a sideshow to the treaties.
There are a lot of nations to treaty with (not one first nation, but many first nations), so it will take time. But, it’s all about to kick off.
The crown did not win by spoils of war, nor did it take over via treaty.
Watch the news. The upcoming wind of change is all based on Australian having no actual, legal rights to claim the continent. No treaty. No spoils of war.
The key word to watch is apartheid. The media will probably start using it soon. Not the Murdoch press, of course.
Nothing you said is true.
Bookmark this. Time will tell
Yes, it will tell you that you’re an idiot. Just like all those cookers scared of vaccines. “JUST YOU WAIT! YOU’RE ALL GOING TO DIE!” 🤦 Muppets.
Sorry, what do you feel is inaccurate in what I’ve said? Interesting response, to go straight to anti vaxxer. Surprised you haven’t pulled to Nazi card yet.
So, what exactly has upset you? That the aboriginal nations are individual nations? That Australia are beginning process to treaty with them? Interesting
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Hmm. If you’re genuinely interested, I’m happy to share what I know. Just shout. My family are directly involved with one of the first nations, who are going through the process. Did you know, for example, that as first nations people are not recognised in the constitution, that putting them in prison breaks international law? By subjecting first nations people to crown law, without recognising them, is a crime according to the ICJ. Thus, the government are scrambling to get first nations people even scribbled into the constitution. Because then, they are clear. Hence, the voice. It’s literally all about getting Australia in line, and not breaking the international laws, which we have signed, and are a party to.
Right now, it is apartheid. Legally.
Also interestingly, any first nation can work with any government they wish. The Chinese? Sure, why not. Any country. They are actual entities that have been here forever, have not gone through treaty, and have not lost their land via spoils of war.
Interesting times indeed.
Do you have a hole in your head? We incarcerate indigenous people at rates way above other demographics.
Get out of here with that conspiracy bullshit.
Exactly. We are in agreement on that.
We are illegally incarcerating them. They are not recognised in the constitution. They have not signed any treaties.
Therefore, we are forcing the crown’s rule of law on an unrecognised group of people (the First Nations).
We’ve signed international agreements on human rights that forbid Australia from doing so. Until first nations people are recognised, we are breaking the law. Hence, the scramble for the voice. Then individual treaties with the nations.
It’s pretty clear and simple stuff. There was a full event held at the Australian National University this month. Some First Nations representatives were there. Representatives from the Governer General’s office were there. The big guns of the legal fraternity were there. It was all about this topic. You might not like, or agree, but it’s factual, the ball is rolling, it’s happening.
Bwhahahah!
None of that is true. You fing muppet.
Let me guess, you believe you travel in a conveyance, you don’t drive a car?
Always a pleasure, discussing ideas with someone intellectual, and knowledge. Look forward to your next factual, and stimulating exchange.
Worth reminding people that Murdoch - the Murdoch press you mentioned - is against it.
So either you agree with and support Murdoch, or you support Australia and vote yes.
You didn’t actually read what was written. You cherry picked, and repackaged.