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TL;DR:
Minimum Specs:
- OS: Windows 10 version 21H1 (10.0.19043)
- Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, Intel Core i7-6800K
- Memory: 16 GB RAM
- Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 5700, NVIDIA GeForce 1070 Ti
- DirectX: Version 12
- Storage: 125 GB available space
- Additional Notes: SSD Required
Recommended Specs:
- OS: Windows 10/11 with updates
- Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X, Intel i5-10600K
- Memory: 16 GB RAM
- Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
- DirectX: Version 12
- Network: Broadband Internet connection
- Storage: 125 GB available space
- Additional Notes: SSD Required
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REMEMBER: NO PRE-ORDERS. Safest bet is to wait a year after any Bethesda release to give modders enough time to fix the game.
Or pirate it until they fix it, that’s my plan
Lol stealing a game with the intent to pay for it later?
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Am I crazy or has there been almost no pre-release coverage of this game?
Oblivion and Fallout 3 are two of my all-time favourite games (I’ve played the others as well but those 2 stuck with me the most) but I just cannot get hyped for this game. It’s like a black box with people’s hopes and dreams, and it feels like people are just hyping themselves up by imagining what could be inside it.
I couldn’t imagine pre-ordering this game in particular. Beth has been so quiet I’m worried it may just be a total flop.
Bethesda put out a long video around Summer Game Fest that spent 45 minutes showing most of the gameplay systems in the game. It was honestly a bit overwhelming.
Reviewers are quiet because the NDA is still active. It should end sometime today (Aug 31).
Yeah I watched that. It was almost all dev talk, some views on the major city, and some promises. I meant like, I haven’t seen ANY impressions from outside the company that made the game.
But yeah, review embargo is up so let’s see
It’s finally happened … my 1070 is finally below minimum requirements for a game I want to play. Guess this will be an Xbox only game for me because I am not paying the insane prices for GPUs.
GPUs are at pretty reasonable prices if you buy used. The 3060 Ti is $237 and it beats the 4060.
Intel’s GPUs are an insane value now that they’ve got a lot of the driver kinks worked out. Some DX11 games still don’t run as well as they would on equivalent Nvidia or AMD hardware, but most newer games are using DX12 or Vulkan nowadays.
now that they’ve got a lot of the driver kinks worked out
And dropped their prices considerably
If/when I finally build a PC, Intel Arc is going to be a serious contender for me. They’re looking really good as they continue to support them.
And they outperform AMD on ray tracing workloads, so I think they will age better as more games start shipping with RT features over the next year.
That’s assuming I have $237 laying around to play a game id also need to spend $70 on.
Depends on where. In my country there are assholes that still want the equivalent of 300USD for a 2080ti.
Same, for the GPU that is. I don’t have or want an Xbox so I guess I won’t be playing it for a long time. Not that I ever play Bethesda games at launch anyway.
I run most of my gaming through GeForce No Can’t afford to replace my 1070 and streaming the games seem to work fine for now.
Don’t own an Xbox or PC, I’m going to wait until they decide milking money out of an old game > exclusivity and play with the future GOTY edition on a smart refrigerator or a Playdate or whatever other weird platform they repackage it for.
You reminded me it’s not on PS5. The PC my partner (who might be interested in this) plays on can’t handle this. So…guess we won’t play it. Oh well.
There was a weird window where Skyrim was like $6.
Then Skyrim legendary went to $20.
I’m pretty hyped for this game. I love space RPGS and haven’t had something cool since Mass Effect.
This is Bethesda. There’s no way it’ll be anywhere near as refined as mass effect.
But that means this will be more fun. I love me some Bethesda bug chaos. And mods.
I asume you’ve tried Elite Dangerous. Why didn’t you like that?
Personally I love Elite Dangerous, but have still only spent ~50 hours in it.
It’s a fantastic flight sim. But IMO it’s just not as captivating as a purposefully created narrative. It’s good for different reasons. I know they’ve added ground/walking stuff since last I played. I know you can discover alien stuff and wander alongside the ‘story’ in the game. But it’s closer to FromSoft style reading text descriptions and forum posts to follow the story than it is playing an RPG.
It’s a game where you make your own story I guess
I played the original Elite on the BBC, and then Elite 2 & 3 on the Amiga. Elite Dangerous on the PC was just plain dull by comparison.
Not op, but I’ve put 200 hours into elite and feel a similar way about starfield. Elite doesn’t scratch the itch that mass effect has.
Mass effect is full of interesting characters and situations between people, elite has the powerplay characters (who I believe you dont actually interact with) and no one else. Every npc you interact with is just a blank face for a menu.
I’m not expecting characters on the same level as mass effect with starfield, but I’m hoping for something.
I also love space RPGs. SWTOR was pretty great. It’s an MMO, but it has good single player. The Knights of the Fallen Empire/Eternal Throne DLCs are basically single player games and they’re really good quality. The KOTOR games are also really great, if a bit older and KOTOR2 was basically unfinished and requires mods to make it even feel 80% finished.
Outer Worlds was okay. It certainly does in some ways feel similar to Fallout in space. But not quite as good and I don’t recall being aware of any serious modding scene.
But huh, I thought there’d be more, but I’m struggling to think of space RPGs with a feel like Mass Effect or Elder Scrolls. I’m really looking forward to this, too, cause despite being a buggy mess, I love Bethesda games and I also love sci fi (especially in space).
Not an RPG, but I also love Stellaris. It’s a strategy game, but really scratched that hyper advanced sci fi and space exploration itch.
I really liked the Mass Effect Series, it’s no Freelancer or Freespace but if Starfield even feels a little bit like what No Man Sky was doing it should be good. Fallout series and TES proves it will be buggy but fun.
Is it still 30 fps on Series X? I don’t think that’s acceptable for a first-person game in 2023.
You say that, but Immortals of Aveum probably would have benefited immensely from a 30 FPS option.
Even more from a 40FPS option.
I didn’t follow this game. Can you explain why a lower frame rate is desirable here? Is it just too demanding to run at 60+?
It is the first shipping UE5 game that uses both Nanite and Lumen, and with insanely detailed environments to boot. It holds a pretty stable 60 FPS on the PS5, but it runs at 720p internally and upscales to 4k using FSR2, resulting in some very questionable image quality.
I think these features are insanely cool and their commitment to supporting 60 FPS is commendable, but this really is a case where I would actually prefer 30 or 40 FPS with a higher internal resolution.
It’s 720p on PS5 then upscaled. It runs ok at 60FPS. But the Res is simply too low for me
It’s not going to get better unless companies start making consoles with 1-2 year life cycles (which won’t sell, because at that point, you may as well be swapping parts out of your PC of Theseus).
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You really believe that? Have you played New Vegas at 30 and 60 fps? Go ahead and try it out. I’ll wait.
I will say once more. Do not preorder video games. It could be shit, it could be buggy, but what it won’t do is run out of copies. Wait until the reviews are out, or even a bit after it launches if you can. If you’re anything like me you have hundreds of games you haven’t played yet so what’s an hour or a day in the grand scheme of things.
It’s also on Gamepass. You can play it instantly for a much lower cost to make sure it works. Then buy it if you still want later when it goes on sale.
It’s a Bethesda game. It wouldn’t feel right if it were bug-free.
It wouldn’t feel right if it didn’t have the exact same bugs as the last 4 Bethesda releases.
If anything is moving backwards through the air, you know it was bolted on to code for Skyrim’s dragons
The reviews have mentioned it does actually have an enemy that is this games dragon lol
Console details?
Own an Xbox Series…
Ssd required?
SSD has been a best practice requirement for a long ass time anyway. SSDs are cheap now.
I just bought an 8TB chonker last week for $340. It comfortably fit my entire Steam library of 19 years with room to spare.
A year ago this same drive was still averaging ~$650-$700.
In case someone’s wondering about cheaper options; Samsung 980 500GB NVMe M.2 costs as much as £32 GBP (~40 USD), and 1 TB version is £52 GBP (~65 USD).
Bought a Samsung nvme M2 that was 2 TB for like $90.
It shouldn’t be a surprise. Games load assets on the fly to save memory, which would be terrible on a hard drive.
Not great for an SSD either since they have finite read/writes too.
Solid State Drives have no read limits, only write limits.
Oh wow that made a ton of changes to my statement! Same difference.
No it’s not the same. Playing games, or loading assets causes no wear for the SSD.
Well that’s just not factually accurate. The accurate thing would be it causes so little wear and tear it might as well not count on the memory chips. But using ANYTHING causes wear and tear to build up eventually and a SSD has more points of failure than just reading and writing to the memory.
Nonsense. NAND flash memory is non-volatile and can be read from indefinitely without wearing out.
What year do you live in?
I still install all my games on hdd. Works fine.
Well some games now rely on the speeds of SSDs since the newest consoles have them, so that HDD does not in fact work fine anymore.
Lemmy allows you to embed objects in posts?
These should show up as images, I’m not sure what app you’re using.
Sync for Lemmy. They show up as images in the post, but on the preview it looks like I shared. Weird.
Just a guess, so I could be completely wrong. But I imagine Sync doesn’t run text from the post feed through a markdown parser/renderer. It only does that when viewing the full post. At least that’s the reason why we have a similar result in Thunder for lemmy.
Sync for Lemmy for me. Working
Sync has some issues displaying images embedded into post bodies. I still have Jerboa installed for if I need to view or make posts with them.
I believe yes, it should act like something you just did, embedding image in comment
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that was blizzard…
What esport is Bethesda involved in? I remember Blizzard doing that and it being a big deal, but don’t remember Bethesda.
Bethesda only has Quake
Apparently, you did forget what piece of crap company that was lmao
how do you know that Todd Howard lied? he opened his mouth.
SSD Required? Wat
Yes. Now that all the consoles have ssds, devs are going to design their games around them. That means asset streaming is the norm. And that means hdds will cause massive pop-in and stutters.
Honestly if you don’t have an SSD save 50$ and get one. Especially for crappier pcs it’s the most significant upgrade you can do and not even for gaming. 10 years ago SSDs were somewhat niche. They were expensive as well. Now I won’t even touch a computer without one basically.
It is not at all sustainable to game on HDDs anymore. They are still good for slow cold storage, though.
It wasn’t sustainable 5 years ago.
It’s probably not 100% necessary; even Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (which was designed to use the PS5’s fast loading speeds to switch between worlds on the fly, and supports the latest DirectStorage implementation on PC) can be played off a hard drive, tests have shown. But any PC recent enough to play Starfield on really should have an SSD.
“Playable” and “good experience” don’t necessarily mean the same thing though. Those rift transitions in R&C are rough on anything less than a decent NVMe SSD. Though there may be some room for improvement, as even high end NVMe drives struggle to handle these transitions as gracefully as the PS5.
Whether or not playing off an HDD is truly a dealbreaker though depends on where in gameplay the storage speed bottleneck causes problems. For Rift Apart, it’s mostly just an issue with these rift transitions, and the gameplay effectively pauses while it waits for them. For an open world game it could be more problematic (i.e. pervasive traversal stutter during combat.)
