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Context in the URL.

If WeChat is not sold to a US company by September 15th, it’ll be banned in the US. And, well, September 15th is nearly upon us…

Thoughts?

  • michel
    1·
    4 years ago

    Make it progressive perhaps. Make it a multiple of userbase * data per user * number of privacy antipattern.

    Facebook and Google **would*be affected if the fines amount to billions per year instead of haphazardly every decade or so

      • michel
        2·
        4 years ago

        ah, any source for Google’s OKR? 8 bytes per user seems overly ambitious.

        I guess we also have to consider how data is tied to the use cases that the user intended. e.g. Facebook misusing 2FA phone numbers for other purposes should have been fined under any decent privacy framework.

          • michel
            11·
            4 years ago

            My best bet right now is for EU regulations like GDPR creating a space for service providers selling paid hosting for open-source software that replace proprietary US tech.

            e.g. Nextcloud hosting to replace Dropbox / Google {Drive, Contacts, Calendar}; mailbox.org / migadu / posteo / protonmail to replace Gmail, Mastodon/Pleroma to replace Twitter; Lemmy to replace Reddit…

            just gradually ramp up the friction for using privacy-invasive US tech for EU businesses and consumers (it might already be illegal for EU businesses to store their data in the US depending on how you interpret that recent ECJ ruling) … it won’t happen fast since the US sees any immediate curtailing of its tech companies as a trade war.

              • michel
                1·
                4 years ago

                This is all great for the percentage of people who can reasonably migrate to these systems, but I have a hard time imagining the information technology platforms of society at large adopting these systems …

                Agreed - I think we need more tech-savvy people to adapt these systems and gradually improve them to the point that they are more accessible to the average person.

                It’s not someting that free software folks are historically good at, so this definitely would not be an easy goal to achieve…

                There are claims that regulations like GDPR disadvantages smaller players and actually help Facebook and Google, but it’s early days still – and maybe it makes it harder to compete with FB and Google on their own turf, but that’s a red herring and we should incubate business models that are more privacy-friendly to begin with?