• Moonrise2473@feddit.it
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    What’s the point of primary and secondary backups if they can be accessed with the same credentials on the same network

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      They weren’t normally on the same network, but were accidentally put on the same network during migration.

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      What’s the correct way to implement it so that it can still be automated? Credentials that can write new backups but not delete existing ones?

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    Time and time again, data hosting providers are proving that local backups not connected to the internet are way better than storing in the cloud.

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    Now that you mention fucking incompetence, I need to verify my 3-2-1 backup strategy is correctly implemented. Thanks for the reminder, CloudNordic and AzeroCloud!

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    Danish hosting firms CloudNordic and AzeroCloud have suffered ransomware attacks, causing the loss of the majority of customer data and forcing the hosting providers to shut down all systems, including websites, email, and customer sites.

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    I feel really bad for everyone involved - customers and staff. The human cost in this is huge.

    Yes, there’s a lot of criticism of backup strategies here, but I bet most of us who deal with this professionally have knowledge of systems that would also be vulnerable to malicious attack, and that’s only the shortcomings we know about. Audits and pentesting are great, but not infallable and one tiny mistake can expose everything. If we were all as good as we think we are, ransomware wouldn’t be a thing.

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      I think that people generally overestimate how much money tech companies like this one actually make. Their profits are tiny. A lot of the time, tech companies run on investment money, and can’t actually turn a profit. They wait for the big acquisition or IPO payday. So if you think you’re actually gonna get 100k off them, good luck. Sometimes they’re barely keeping the lights on.

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        I think they’re aware of that

        Martin Haslund Johansson, the director of Azerocloud and CloudNordic, stated that he does not expect customers to be left with them when the recovery is finally completed.

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          The customers are already lost:

          1. pay the expensive ransom, if the bad actor gives them the decryption key, customers are relieved but still pissed, will take the data and move to somewhere else with a big FO. Go out of business.

          2. don’t pay the ransom, customers are pissed and move to somewhere else with a big FO. Go out of business.

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    If you fuck up that badly you shouldn’t be allowed to operate in that industry.

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      Sounds like they had all their backups online, instead of keeping offline copies. It’s a reminder that everyone needs at least one backup that isn’t connected to any computer. It’s also a reminder that “the cloud” should not be the only place you keep your data, because hosting providers are targets for this stuff and you don’t know how careful they are.