I love everything SNW has done, including the musical. Can’t wait for season 3 to experiment even more.
I agree, I’m not on board with the author’s pessimism.
Some of the greatest strides in Trek come from outside forces trying new things. Wrath of Kahn happened the same way.
The fact that the author thinks season two strayed so far makes me think that in 20 years it’s gonna be talked about the same way DS9 is.
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“Beginning of the end” is really hyperbolic. Some of the songs were mid, but that’s about it.
I laughed heartily and enjoyed it.
“Where is Star Trek taking me, today?” ~ Some nerd
I found the musical episode to be very much in line with classic trek stand alone episodes. Loved it for that reason. Would I like to see another musical episode? Hell no!
once was enough
Not gonna lie. I bailed on it halfway through. I’ve been loving SNW, but I just can’t do musicals.
I abhor musicals, won’t even give that episode a chance. Otherwise love SNW though
Yeah. Other than the musical episode and the fact that I’d prefer a show with a new crew on a new ship set post-DS9 I’ve really been enjoying SNW and I plan to keep up.
This is what happens when you have non-Star Trek fans trying to make Star Trek television, eventually, they get on board with the moral teledramas and they start doing whatever they find funny, quirky, or meme-worthy.
This is stated as if legacy IPs being written by fans haven’t consistently devolved into canonized circlejerks.
His analysis was spot on. This is EXACTLY what happens when you have non-Star Trek fans trying to make Star Trek television. Have the showrunners learned nothing from Discovery? Paramount only has 2 Trek shows left because the others (largely) sucked. They cannot afford to let showrunners enshitify one of their only 2 Trek shows left. These guys need to be fired before the writers strike is over. If they don’t then the last season of SNW will be either 3 or 4. SNW isn’t even going to last as long as Discovery.
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We’ll see. So far it’s leaned heavily on bringing back TOS characters. If “moving away” means more musical episodes, I will probably bail. If it means more self contained stories around the actual crew, I will stick with it.
I don’t see the studio letting them lean into more gimmicks if the musical episode is one of the lowest rated.
I didn’t even watch the musical episode. It doesn’t exist for me. Season 2 is a 9 episode season.
I thought it was a great episode, it was a fun self contained episode.
I for one look forward to seeing them experiment more.
I hate the thing I didn’t even try.
I thought it was awesome. Try to keep an open mind.
It was rated the worst episode in all of star trek.
I want to see live action cetacean ops or I will start a riot.
Sounds like seaQuest dsv
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I love the show (musical not so much) and the characters, but please just let Star Trek be Star Trek. 🙏
[We’re going to keep going. We genre hop]
WTF?? No do NOT genre hop. That is always when sci-fi goes down hill. If you don’t wish to do proper Star Trek, then resign and go do something else!
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I can’t believe Paramount fucked up yet another Star Trek series by putting the wrong people in charge again! Now I don’t even care about Season 3. I don’t want to watch “Soap Opera in Space”. I want to watch science fiction and Star Trek stories.
Even TOS and TNG genre hopped. Comedy episodes. Horror episodes. Mystery episodes. Espionage episodes. It’s part of what makes it great.
TOS was Wagon Train to the Stars, not Soap Opera in Space. TOS and TNG did not do any musicals. If they had it would have killed Trek right then.
They should have. Patrick Stewart would have absolutely killed in a musical episode.
TOS was Wagon Train to the Stars
Please, there was narry a hooker with a heart of gold to be found.
not Soap Opera in Space
Tell me you’ve never seen a soap opera before.
