It sucks so much that voice training progress is better measured in like years than in months or whatever but it is nice that it’s the ONE THING that you don’t need to be lucky with genetics or spending a lot of money in transitioning - pure effort and discipline.
thing that made the most improvement for me was to just start using the best voice I could 24/7. made a noticeable difference within a couple of months and by a year I never got misgendered on the phone. also made going back to voice training a lot easier cause I just had more control over my voice.
I was doing that for a while. Then I got COVID. I could barely talk at all, and so I stopped until my voice recovered… Then I didn’t start again. But I agree… I was making good progress for a while.
The upside is that with enough training, you can still produce almost the entire feminine vocal range. It’s a lot easier to get a hyperfeminine voice with thickened vocal chords than to get a hypermasculine voice without them., especially due to how resonace works. It’s not that hard to get your larynx all the way up, but when you want to expand the resonating space in your throat without having gone through a testosterone puberty, there’s just clear physical limits you run into.
Tbh I’m not so certain of that anymore. I’m physically incapable of dropping my voice after 10+ years hrt, maybe disuse of the lower rung of the chords thins it out over a long time
Tbh did my voice training in like 3 months of practicing every day. I recommend milk (or a substitute )and beer to loosen things up
I started pretty low. Remember it’s still a muscle, treat it like weight training , have protein after, maybe caffeine before. Make sure you do the same exercise (e.g. say the same words)
I probably still should do a little more as a touch up but I pass so it’s hard to get motivation for it
It sucks so much that voice training progress is better measured in like years than in months or whatever but it is nice that it’s the ONE THING that you don’t need to be lucky with genetics or spending a lot of money in transitioning - pure effort and discipline.
Apparently my voice passes and I only seriously trained for 3 months. It just takes commitment to never use your dead voice again and always correct.
But I’m fluid with distinct masc and femme presentation
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the years come at you fast. I started transition 5 years ago and I can’t believe it’s been that long.
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thing that made the most improvement for me was to just start using the best voice I could 24/7. made a noticeable difference within a couple of months and by a year I never got misgendered on the phone. also made going back to voice training a lot easier cause I just had more control over my voice.
I was doing that for a while. Then I got COVID. I could barely talk at all, and so I stopped until my voice recovered… Then I didn’t start again. But I agree… I was making good progress for a while.
Idk how long at this point I only remember the day I did it lol. 10+ years for me probably closer to 15
Does your voice not change at all from hrt? That’s kind of surprising to me.
For trans men it does. But once testosterone has thickened your vocal folds no amount of estrogen can reverse that process sadly.
nope, once u go thru a male puberty your vocal chords are permanently thickened
The upside is that with enough training, you can still produce almost the entire feminine vocal range. It’s a lot easier to get a hyperfeminine voice with thickened vocal chords than to get a hypermasculine voice without them., especially due to how resonace works. It’s not that hard to get your larynx all the way up, but when you want to expand the resonating space in your throat without having gone through a testosterone puberty, there’s just clear physical limits you run into.
Tbh I’m not so certain of that anymore. I’m physically incapable of dropping my voice after 10+ years hrt, maybe disuse of the lower rung of the chords thins it out over a long time
Used to be a low baritone
Tbh did my voice training in like 3 months of practicing every day. I recommend milk (or a substitute )and beer to loosen things up
I started pretty low. Remember it’s still a muscle, treat it like weight training , have protein after, maybe caffeine before. Make sure you do the same exercise (e.g. say the same words)
I probably still should do a little more as a touch up but I pass so it’s hard to get motivation for it