Obvious examples of Central Intelligence Agency covert action abroad are difficult to identify today, save for occasional acknowledged calamities, such as the long-running $1 billion effort to overthrow the government of Syria, via funding, training and arming barbarous jihadist groups.
Wow, Ohkay. It seems you are just ignoring some realities and calling them pretexts (Ethnic cleansing in Bosnia is a fact. Ethnic cleansing in the Donbas is not: ICJ: Ukraine v. Russian Federation (2022)). You then refer to some questionable sources like Jeffery “Uyghur camps are not genocide” Sachs who appeared on the air with Vladimir “russia’s unhinged principal propagandist” Solovyov and other russian apologists. Then continue by ignoring the fact that the russians have denied the IAEA access to the roof etc for close to a month now. And finish off by stating that the sheer volume of food products coming from Ukraine having an impact on global food prices is a made up narrative.
I’m done with this. The only reason i replied is in he hopes that if someone ever comes across this thread they can see who you are and what you are arguing for.
I’ll concede the west is not perfect by any means, far from it. And the US with her many flaws is not some holy beacon of goodness that we should all aspire to be, far from it. But the argument that Russia, China and the likes are not as evil as they are made out to be is just delusional and dangerous.
No, seems that it’s actually you who are ignoring some realities, here’s what even CNN reported back in 2014 https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296
Also, your Uyghur camps claims have been thoroughly debunked. I didn’t realize I was wasting my time talking to a conspiracy theorist here.
The fact that you think that Russia and China are worse than the country that’s been at war for 93% of its existence and massacred countless millions across the globe shows that you’re utterly morally bankrupt.
Bye.
Ah yes, I am the one morally bankrupt, says the man vehemently defending Russia invading another country.
This is what you are defending: (A random selection)
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And Yes I prefer US hegemony over the current alternatives under China and her internment camps or the Russian Kleptocracy and so do you. And Thoroughly debunked by the Chinese government maybe.
US runs a literal torture camp on the Cuban soil it annexed and has concentration camps for migrant kids on its border right now. Then of course there’s the Abu Ghraib atrocities. The destruction of cities in Iraq, Libya, and Syria happened on a far greater scale. US killed orders of magnitude ore civilians in its wars.
Then, there are entire books are written on the atrocities US has been committing to Latin America
https://ia800309.us.archive.org/26/items/fp_Killing_Hope-US_Military_and_CIA_Interventions_Since_WWII-William_Blum/Killing_Hope-US_Military_and_CIA_Interventions_Since_WWII-William_Blum.pdf
The fact that you look at all this and think this is preferable to China who haven’t been at war since the 70s and have been a positive influence in the world shows just what a monster you really are. And thoroughly debunked by western media. You should find better lies to use that aren’t so obvious.
The millions of Uyghurs being supposedly imprisoned story is based on two highly dubious “studies.”. CHRD states that it interviewed dozens of ethnic Uyghurs in the course of its study, but their enormous estimate was ultimately based on interviews with exactly eight Uyghur individuals. Based on this absurdly small sample of research subjects in an area whose total population is 20 million, CHRD “extrapolated estimates” that “at least 10% of villagers […] are being detained in re-education detention camps, and 20% are being forced to attend day/evening re-education camps in the villages or townships, totaling 30% in both types of camps.” Furthermore, it doesn’t even make sense from logistics perspective. You’d need a detention city the size of San Francisco to detain one million Uighurs.
Practically all the stories we see about China trace back to Adrian Zenz is a far right fundamentalist nutcase and not a reliable source for any sort of information. The fact that he’s the primary source for practically every article in western media demonstrates precisely what I’m talking about when I say that coverage is divorced from reality.
Zenz is a born-again Christian who lectures at the European School of Culture and Theology. This anodyne-sounding campus is actually the German base of Columbia International University, a US-based evangelical Christian seminary which considers the “Bible to be the ultimate foundation and the final truth in every aspect of our lives,” and whose mission is to “educate people from a biblical worldview to impact the nations with the message of Christ.”
Zenz’s work on China is inspired by this biblical worldview, as he recently explained in an interview with the Wall Street Journal. “I feel very clearly led by God to do this,” he said. “I can put it that way. I’m not afraid to say that. With Xinjiang, things really changed. It became like a mission, or a ministry.”.
Along with his “mission” against China, heavenly guidance has apparently prompted Zenz to denounce homosexuality, gender equality, and the banning of physical punishment against children as threats to Christianity.
Zenz outlined these views in a book he co-authored in 2012, titled Worthy to Escape: Why All Believers Will Not Be Raptured Before the Tribulation. In the tome, Zenz discussed the return of Jesus Christ, the coming wrath of God, and the rise of the Antichrist.
The fact that this nutcase is being paraded as a credible researcher on the subject is absolutely surreal, and it’s clear that the methodology of his “research” doesn’t pass any kind of muster when examined closely.
It’s also worth noting that there is a political angle around the narrative around Xinjiang. For example, here’s George Bush’s chief of staff openly saying that US wants to destabilize the region, and NED recently admitting to funding Uyghur separatism for the past 16 years on their own official Twitter page. An ex-CIA operative details US operations radicalizing and training terrorists in the region in this book. Here’s an excerpt:
US has been stoking terrorism in the region while they’ve been running a propaganda campaign against China in the west.