• Chariotwheel@kbin.social
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    Though it’s coming. The question will be of it stays. Current government is in dire straits in the polls. This might only live one or two years until the next government culls it, given that the conservatives are rising again.

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      The problem is not the conservatives tbh, more the actual nazis. Couldn’t worry much about the CDU right now, they’re a known problem that is largely inept due to their own inability to effect change since not doing so is essentially their primary advertisement for themselves.

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        The issue with the CDU/CSU is that they already made steps towards the AFD after the party passed 20%. Remember, the conservatives in the Weimar Republic supported the Nazis, not because they liked them, but because they thought they could puppeteer them, get rid of the communists and socialists and then zhrowing them away and come out on top.

        I am afraid that the current conservatives have similair thoughts when it comes to the AFD.

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          Of course they do. Conservatives aren’t center as they claim. They are right wing. So their natural friends are other enemies of freedom and democracy.

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              Is it? Or maybe if you look at conservative parties all over world it’s the same shit everywhere. They’re just right wingers pretending they are not

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                I looked and the common pattern I see is that conservative parties are actually several smaller parties stacked in a trenchcoat, pretending to have a common direction, but too scared of adressing inner conflict. They still hope they can continue to uphold a facade of unity by pandering to the rightwingers.

                It’s not very effective. But I see that as a result of group-psychology and basic human incompetence, not as explicitly agreeing with fascist values.

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        As far as I understand it the EU laws are also an issue, right ? And those won’t be easy to bypass in the long run, right?

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          This legalization is supposed to come in two steps. This first step here already found a very clever way to tip-toe around the EU laws.

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      I wanted to say that the CDU/CSU has the charisma of a rotten potato and that I doubt they’ll rake in many votes, but then I remembered who our current chancellor is.

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        A good chunk of people only look at their bottomline. And for some it’s “we have less money right now than under the conservative government”. Doesn’t matter about Covid, doesn’t matter about the war in Ukraine, doesn’t matter about the world wide economy. It’s just “we are worse off” and then it just takes the opposition to promise “we will make that you are better off” to move votes.

        I don’t really see what can happen that makes such a big impact that the government recoup their poll losses.

        Cannabis is the only issue where the three parties are kinda on the same foot, otherwise we have a lot of conflicts, especially between Greens and FDP, which damages both parties. And the SPD is … kinda there, a charismatic blackhole like usually.

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          FDP is doing FDP things as usual. Trying to funnel more money into their audiences pockets. Greens matured a lot in the last decades. I’m not sure if enough, but they changed a lot. The SPD … as bad as it sounds, but the last really charismatic leader was Gas Gerhard. And he was/is a cunt. I don’t want to talk about Bruno the Union. With Mutti they lost a whole lot more than just a leader.

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            For what it’s worth, Mutti was really soft and moderate for her party. Years of just her had many forget what kind of beasts she was holding at bay within her party.

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            The SPD killed Rosa, I’m not surprised they’re ineffective, they never really understood socialism anyway.

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          Amazing protest to throw your votes to literal nazis and conservatives who’d rather help the literal nazis to gain power than accept that time changes thingts.