As you may know, Lemmy.world has decided to ban any communities that deal with the subjects of piracy. Considering that this sub might be considered piracy-adjacent, I’d like to make it clear that discussing the subject directly is not allowed, nor is requesting/offering Plex shares in posts or comments.

This is a community for discussing Plex products, serivices, add-ons, etc. and getting adivce and support or those apps/services. It’s not a place to discuss piracy. I understand this is a fine line to walk and requires a certain amount of compartmentalization in our discussions, but it’s what keeps our discussions from becoming legally problematic (depending on your jurisdiction) for our instance hosts and keeps our community federated with and visible to as many users as possible!

Thanks, Everyone!

– The Mod Team

EDIT: it should be noted that discussions that may involve piracy ARE PERMITTED (as it pertains to Plex and its add-ons) in our Matrix community chats (linked above and in the sidebar), as they’re not Lemmy-related and aren’t going to get this community in trouble here. However, all other rules still apply.

  • JJROKCZ@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5512·
    1 year ago

    Fucking stupid decisions from lemmy world admins, time to make an account elsewhere it seems. Might just go to dbzeros instance

    • nexguy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      28·
      1 year ago

      Beauty of lemmy is you can still enjoy .world and any other instance no matter that particular instances policies

    • bauhausMEnglish
      1814·
      1 year ago

      eh… lemmy.world is based in the US, so they’re liable for anything that gets federated there, as that stuff is not technically hosted on their servers. it’s not because they object to it, it’s just protecting themselves from dumb laws.

      edit: oops, not hosted in the US ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      • ribboo@lemm.eeEnglish
        18·
        1 year ago

        They are not. They are hosted by a German company, with servers in Finland. By a Dutch dude.

      • JJROKCZ@lemmy.worldEnglish
        181·
        1 year ago

        So has Reddit and piracy has been one of the biggest subs since the start of the site.

        • bauhausMEnglish
          131·
          1 year ago

          reddit also has the money to pay for lawyers to defend itself from frivolous legal bullshit (and non-frivolous legal threats). lemmy instance admins don’t. I don’t blame them for playing it safe if their local laws make their lives difficult.

          there are plenty of other instances to choose from.

        • Dubious_FartEnglish
          71·
          1 year ago

          Reddit has a history of not giving a shit about its subreddits until it harms advertising/revenue

          Prime Example: Pedo subs until they became a national news story.

          • bauhausMEnglish
            4·
            1 year ago

            yeah. it was always a game of euphemisms and such there. how strict the enforcement was was always a game of pushing boundaries, getting snapped back by the admins, waves of bans and such, then more boundary-pushing. that went on for years.

      • cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        If it was any other regular website like reddit it would just get completely shut down. Like others have said, this is the strength of federation.

      • yukichigai@kbin.social
        31·
        1 year ago

        Literally they are not. DMCA Safe Harbor provisions specifically make them not liable for content posted by others until it is brought to their attention by a rights holder or some regulatory agency.

        • BrooklynManOPMEnglish
          61·
          1 year ago

          here’s the thing about that: it takes going to court to argue that and hoping you get a favorable ruling.

          and that’s very, very expensive and you could be shut down via injunction until that happens, which could take years.

          and even if the lemmy.world admin could afford hundred of thousands or millions in legal fees to win a case against the RIAA and/or MPAA, why would they want to risk it?

  • JasonHears@lemmy.worldEnglish
    233·
    1 year ago

    I can understand limiting direct links to torrent sites or copyrighted works, but this “discussing the subject directly is not allowed” is pretty overbearing. Whoever is labeling Plex as “piracy-adjacent” shows a generally uninformed opinion on Plex.

    • BrooklynManOPMEnglish
      103·
      1 year ago

      uninformed opinion or not, I’d like to play it safe and ensure this community stays open and viewable to as many people as possible. I know the Plex subreddit ran into issues in the past, and I’d like to avoid them.

      please follow the rules and keep in mind that this sub is of discussing Plex and its addons, not piracy. there are other places for that.

      EDIT: it should be noted that discussions that may involve piracy ARE PERMITTED (as it pertains to Plex and its add-ons) in our Matrix community chats (linked above and in the sidebar), as they’re not Lemmy-related and aren’t going to get this community in trouble here. However, all other rules still apply.

    • BrooklynManOPMEnglish
      72·
      1 year ago

      I think it’s pretty disturbing that you think that there’s anything in common with keeping the conversations in this community relevant and the atrocities committed in Ukraine by the illegal invasion by Russia.

      worse, that you’d try to blame me or any of it. but don’t worry, you don’t have to worry about the rules here ever again.

    • BrooklynManOPMEnglish
      82·
      1 year ago

      you’re perfectly free to discuss that elsewhere (well, in most places, that is).

      in this community we discuss how to install, configure, troubleshoot, etc. Plex and plex add-ons as well as features and so on.

      Where or how you acquire your content (with the exception of Plex streaming content) is irrelevant and not an appropriate subject for conversation here if it involves piracy.

      Sorry.

      EDIT: it should be noted that discussions that may involve piracy ARE PERMITTED (as it pertains to Plex and its add-ons) in our Matrix community chats (linked above and in the sidebar), as they’re not Lemmy-related and aren’t going to get this community in trouble here. However, all other rules still apply.

    • BrooklynManOPMEnglish
      152·
      1 year ago

      free speech is never guaranteed on private platforms, and it’s explicitly not permitted in moderated communities. you even had to agree to a code of conduct which limits your speech when you created you account. if you came here expecting that, you came to the wrong place.

      your participation here is a privilege conditional on your adherence to a social contract which, if you violate, will be revoked. keep that in mind. your freedom is to follow the rules or exercise your freedoms elsewhere.

      EDIT: it should be noted that discussions that may involve piracy ARE PERMITTED (as it pertains to Plex and its add-ons) in our Matrix community chats (linked above and in the sidebar), as they’re not Lemmy-related and aren’t going to get this community in trouble here. However, all other rules still apply.