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      Excluding mental disorders. I do not think anybody likes to steal, atleast not initially. They may have normalized it, even to the point where it may become second nature, or a habit. If there is a lot of such peope, society have failed them a long time ago.

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        I do not think anybody likes to steal

        The rich. It’s their entire lifestyle.

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          Exactly, you can’t become rich without taking what’s not yours. I don’t care poor people stealing food and condoms, I care about rich people stealing people’s retirement funds and shit like that.

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          That is a mental illness or disease no less than narcism or alcoholism. Rich people aren’t special, and they are sick. They also happen to exploit others in a way that feeds back into that sickness. It appears important bc they have so much but its just coincidence, disease and the complexity of socitey that makes it hard to change so that there illness can be treated.

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        Nah. Some people do it for the kick and because the cashier doesn’t care. It’s not their job to prevent you from stealing.

        But why should anyone steal bread except when they literally can’t pay. The ones I know that steal for the kick are stealing chips and smaller sweets. Not normal groceries.

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      *You’re.

      Can’t you be a cold-hearted, miserly, withered, and bitter Scrooge and yet use basic grammar correctly?

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      I find the levels of empathy between commenters here fascinating. Here we have an effective psychopath, apparently very little capacity for empathy, no understanding, a clear lack of ability to walk in another’s shoes. There is nothing for sympathy and compassion to flow from.

      What is your life about? Just winning? removed and money? Something like that?

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        You apparently have so much empathy that you’re able to guess what a hypothetical theif is thinking. What about the empathy for those who are being stolen from?

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          The multi million grocer won’t even notice a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter go missing it’s literally built into their margins

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                And all I’m saying is not everybody that steals food needs to steal food. There are actually kleptomaniacs all over the place and /r/shoplifting is good evidence.

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                    I’m not the one claiming that a certain type of piercing doesn’t exist. I’m claiming that a certain type of theft is not always altruistic. Everybody else in here seems to disagree and think everybody that steals food is always doing it to survive.

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                  The incidence of kleptomania is small, and the collective damage done by those with such a pathology is almost certainly a rounding error at most to these corporations. These stores likely throw away more than they have stolen from them, r/dumpsterdiving is good evidence.

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          A shop is not a person. They’re not breaking into your house and stealing, they’re shoplifting food. I’ve worked in a shop, you should see how much shit just goes into a fucking dumpster. A shoplifter isn’t even a blip on the daily waste radar.

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          Empathy is literally about understanding the feelings of others.

          It’s about putting yourself in their shoes, and ask yourself how you would feel in their situation. What led to them being where they are today. Sure some people like to steal, but the vast majority of food thieves in society today are literally going hungry otherwise, often due to situations outside of their control.

          What would you do if you lost your ability to feed your family tomorrow, lost your job, many folks would lean on family or friends, but what if those weren’t in the picture, or in a position to help. Imagine what state of mind you would be in. Would you risk getting caught stealing some storebrand food if it meant feeding yourself or your family?

          Now, let’s say this particular instance isnt that. This is just someone stealing for the fun of it. You can’t honestly say that the above scenario doesn’t happen every single day, all over the world? Should we not try to help those people, even if it means someone may benefit from it that doesn’t need that assistance? Or that we shouldn’t help them because it wouldn’t completely eliminate shoplifting, so why bother? Since obviously the risk of being caught doesn’t also eliminate shop lifting, why bother with it then?

          And it’s obvious that the threat of being caught doesn’t eliminate this behavior, since desperate people literally steal to survive, and the thrill seekers are literally drawn by the danger, is it not in the store owners best interest to help those in need, as it will eliminate that segment of shoplifting? Eliminating food/housing insecurity is the first step on getting those that are so desperate back on their feet, and becoming functioning, productive members of society.

          So yeah, having empathy with someone who is struggling (maybe not this person, but all those who steal food) is far more productive than assuming the worst in them and feeling vindicated.

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        I’ve removed your comment for breaking rule 1: no name calling or insults. This applies even when someone has a very unpopular opinion. Please read the rules in the sidebar before participating in this community again. If you break the rules again you will be banned. Thank you.