i wonder what happened in the last decade that gave western countries a much bigger and less discerning workforce to select from that enables them to dump wages … ?
not in that quantity. not with journalists, activists and politicians being in line with (big) employers. it’s not about “immigration”, it’s about “mass immigration” by mostly poor and undereducated ppl (not judging) who will do low end and manual labour for $10/h less, no fix hours and no insurance. those people get used and abused and the domestic workers are getting dumped, accelerating the social downward spiral faster with every day.
it’s either creating social collapse or a new wageslave caste, everyone loses but the big shots.
Fun fact: you can be against (big) employers skewing the market by getting away with abusing migrant workers without blaming the workers for fleeing even worse conditions.
In general, immigration (yes, including mass immigration)is a huge cultural and economic boon to any country with proper infrastructure to handle the transition. The problem is that corrupt politicians are negligent in enabling that infrastructure AND letting unscrupulous corporations get away with semi-slavery, not that the exploited workers are in the country in the first place.
“In general, immigration (yes, including mass immigration)is a huge cultural and economic boon to any country with proper infrastructure to handle the transition.” - that’s not what’s happening in like europe right now, it’s even getting worse, but i guess some ppl will continue to try to meme this into reality. and let’s not talk about draining other countries of it’s workforce, something that’s conveniently gets ignored everytime a topic like that pops up.
Hej granne! I’m in Denmark and couldn’t agree more if I tried.
When I see an American mentioning our countries, it’s almost always either
A) someone on the left who’s done their research about social safety nets and wants the US to emulate our successes or
B) someone on the right who’s heard in the far right “news” echochamber that we live in communist dystopias overrun with hordes of barbaric Muslims, Africans and African Muslims pillaging and raping 24/7🤦
Dude, they STILL go on about that one crime gang that the migrants did the Cologne new years thing in 2014, even tho they were here before the migrants.
Every time I say “we need more workers in Germany, we literally have hundreds of thousands of open positions unfilled” I have to hear that shit…
germany has taken in over a million migrants in since 2015, how is it possible that so many jobs are still open? following your logic the unemployment rate must be in the low single digit percent, meanwhile there are talks to foce ppl to work longer …
just take a close look at germany and tell me that it’s going to be fine there. denmark is probably not the best example for this since immigration laws got more strict since 2021.
Immigration laws have been getting stricter here ever since former PM Fogh made spin doctors a thing in Danish politics in 2000 and it’s not because it’s necessary.
It’s the same reason why YOU keep insisting that immigration is inherently bad: demagogues and yellow news convincing the already more bigoted and fearful segments of the population that they pose an existential threat when in reality they’re the best solution for many of our problems and also just regular people like us.
if said economies gatekeep and hand select the ppl they let in, yes, but the exact opposite of that is happening. and no one is interested to tackle the problems that built up the need for immigration in the first place, creating a pretty bad circle.
i wonder what happened in the last decade that gave western countries a much bigger and less discerning workforce to select from that enables them to dump wages … ?
Deregulation, mostly.
The reserve army of labour existed long before immigration
not in that quantity. not with journalists, activists and politicians being in line with (big) employers. it’s not about “immigration”, it’s about “mass immigration” by mostly poor and undereducated ppl (not judging) who will do low end and manual labour for $10/h less, no fix hours and no insurance. those people get used and abused and the domestic workers are getting dumped, accelerating the social downward spiral faster with every day.
it’s either creating social collapse or a new wageslave caste, everyone loses but the big shots.
Fun fact: you can be against (big) employers skewing the market by getting away with abusing migrant workers without blaming the workers for fleeing even worse conditions.
In general, immigration (yes, including mass immigration)is a huge cultural and economic boon to any country with proper infrastructure to handle the transition. The problem is that corrupt politicians are negligent in enabling that infrastructure AND letting unscrupulous corporations get away with semi-slavery, not that the exploited workers are in the country in the first place.
“In general, immigration (yes, including mass immigration)is a huge cultural and economic boon to any country with proper infrastructure to handle the transition.” - that’s not what’s happening in like europe right now, it’s even getting worse, but i guess some ppl will continue to try to meme this into reality. and let’s not talk about draining other countries of it’s workforce, something that’s conveniently gets ignored everytime a topic like that pops up.
Do you live in Europe? I’m in Sweden and its both sad and hilarious how much our problems get exaggerated or misunderstood in foreign media
Hej granne! I’m in Denmark and couldn’t agree more if I tried.
When I see an American mentioning our countries, it’s almost always either
A) someone on the left who’s done their research about social safety nets and wants the US to emulate our successes or
B) someone on the right who’s heard in the far right “news” echochamber that we live in communist dystopias overrun with hordes of barbaric Muslims, Africans and African Muslims pillaging and raping 24/7🤦
Never about our great football players! 😤
Dude, they STILL go on about that one crime gang that the migrants did the Cologne new years thing in 2014, even tho they were here before the migrants.
Every time I say “we need more workers in Germany, we literally have hundreds of thousands of open positions unfilled” I have to hear that shit…
germany has taken in over a million migrants in since 2015, how is it possible that so many jobs are still open? following your logic the unemployment rate must be in the low single digit percent, meanwhile there are talks to foce ppl to work longer …
just take a close look at germany and tell me that it’s going to be fine there. denmark is probably not the best example for this since immigration laws got more strict since 2021.
Immigration laws have been getting stricter here ever since former PM Fogh made spin doctors a thing in Danish politics in 2000 and it’s not because it’s necessary.
It’s the same reason why YOU keep insisting that immigration is inherently bad: demagogues and yellow news convincing the already more bigoted and fearful segments of the population that they pose an existential threat when in reality they’re the best solution for many of our problems and also just regular people like us.
The joys of mass migration.
Immigration is a very good thing for economies prepared to handle it.
if said economies gatekeep and hand select the ppl they let in, yes, but the exact opposite of that is happening. and no one is interested to tackle the problems that built up the need for immigration in the first place, creating a pretty bad circle.
now combine this with deregulation and you got a big corps wet dream utopia. guess who’s not joining unions?