Worth noting that the Chinese ambassador also called it the Malvinas throughout, not the Falklands.

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    That it’s literally a foreign government’s outpost on an island directly off the coast of Argentina, which Argentina could benefit from (and Argentina isn’t as rich as Britain).

    What claim do a bunch of British people who get their British people food shipped half way around the world have? They don’t even import food from Argentina as far as I know.

    Apparently they even has a ship they sail around there. Woo hoo massively polluting military industrial complex!

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      it’s been a british outpost since before argentina was even a country
      it’s just a spanish imperial claim inherited by a colony, pursued by the colonizers

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        It literally has nothing to do with that. It’s land off the coast of Argentina. They should be allowed to use it and not have British oil drilling and navy ships patrolling around it.

        How long before the US decides to coup Argentina and sets up some spy base or black site on the islands, if they don’t have one already?

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          There’s a lot to criticize the UK for. Fairly inhabiting barren rocks without an indigenous population isn’t one of them.

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          How long before the US decides to coup Argentina and sets up some spy base or black site on the islands, if they don’t have one already?

          and how would that be affected by the brits owning it?

          as a communsist, the thing i care about the most is people and the people of the falklands overwhelmingly want to be part of this hell hole for some fucking reason
          and given that the islands were uninhabited before they were colonised, there is no justification for suddnly making them argentinian

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            Not like those people have any more claim to the islands than anyone else. Who cares that they were uninhabited beforehand or whatever. The here and now is that Britain is drilling for resources there.

            The UK is 11th in terms of median wealth, Argentina is 119th. Should oil money off the coast of Argentina benefit Argentinians, or British people?

            • Not like those people have any more claim to the islands than anyone else. Who cares that they were uninhabited beforehand or whatever.

              I would absolutely say the first group of people to settle a previously uninhabited area have more claim than anyone else.

              “Native Americans have no more claim to Ohio than anyone else” yeah except being the first people to live there

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              they have claim to the islands because they fucking live there dude

              because i’m sensing a “you’re just a british nationalist” coming in the immediate future, i’ll just make my position clear
              if the islanders decided that they would rather be argentinian, i would wholeheartedly support argentina’s claim to the islands

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                This. People first. Peoples right to self determination and democracy from top to bottom in society is paramount. As communists, that principle is absolute.

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                  You’re acting like the Argentinian government is gonna massacre them the second power is transferred. Probably nothing would change but Argentina would get the profit from oil and tourism.

                  Like Argentinians are not on average wealthy people. The British people living on those islands probably have it way better than most of the people in Argentina. It’s kind of gross.

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                    You’re acting like the Argentinian government is gonna massacre them the second power is transferred.

                    Historically, how have occupying powers dealt with local populations that overwhelmingly don’t want them there?

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                There’s a point where it tips from “just some people living on an island” and becomes “Britain maintaining an imperial outpost for resource extraction”.

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              Not like those people have any more claim to the islands than anyone else.

              There is no reason whatsoever to override self determination because There were no indigenous people there when it was settled. So the people who live there come first.

    • 100% agree, the US’s claim to Cuba is valid and it should be a US territory.

      That’s how we handle islands off the coast right? Significantly closer than the Falklands, and the US actually owned Cuba for a while!

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      I agree, how dare the Irish occupiers squat on the western british isles, intruding into the UK’s rightful atlantic EEZ. The people that live there will be returned to rightful british rule, as that is clearly what is harmonious.