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I’m surprised these things have been on the market for almost a decade now and nobody has really attempted or figured out how to crack them and put third party firmware on them.
A year or two back, I think I looked for information on them, and found a few people who disassembled them… but, the hardware was pretty custom and specific for the application.
That being said, One of these days, I’ll take apart one of the ones I have laying around here, and see if it might be possible to solder a esp32 somewhere on the board, to take control over some of the functionality.
I’ve tried that, but I couldn’t get it to work with the Android app as my instance is on HTTP as it’s internal only. Think they solved that.
Also, I’m running the docker version, so can’t install add-ons.
But, without Home Assistant Cloud, and without 3d printing / custom printing, the only hardware available for voice assist is the mobile app, right?
I have a Chromecast with remote, so could use Google Assistant, but I believe that requires HA Cloud.
/edit: just found this doc about GA + HA, it either requires HA Cloud, OR a publicly accessible HA instance with SSL. I have neither :D Will look into HA CLoud.
I agree! The pace things are moving has me very excited. I might need to brush the dust off my soldering iron so I can convert my 5+ nest speakers into something that is fully local and open source.
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Can’t wait until we have a device, that is as easy/affordable as picking up a new Alexa… that works with home assistant.
Once, that problem is solved in a way that doesn’t involve soldering and 3d printing… voice will really start to take off.
I’m surprised these things have been on the market for almost a decade now and nobody has really attempted or figured out how to crack them and put third party firmware on them.
There is this but it’s replacing almost everything inside. https://hackaday.com/2023/07/23/google-nest-mini-gutted-and-rebuilt-to-run-custom-agents/ I am hoping they sell the boards but most likely won’t out of fear of Google lawyers.
A year or two back, I think I looked for information on them, and found a few people who disassembled them… but, the hardware was pretty custom and specific for the application.
That being said, One of these days, I’ll take apart one of the ones I have laying around here, and see if it might be possible to solder a esp32 somewhere on the board, to take control over some of the functionality.
Willow looks like it’s a decent chunk of the way there, as soon as the hardware is more generally available.
Yup, that is the one missing piece.
I have been using the new piper/wyoming stuff, and it actually works extremely nicely. I am very impressed with it.
I’ve tried that, but I couldn’t get it to work with the Android app as my instance is on HTTP as it’s internal only. Think they solved that. Also, I’m running the docker version, so can’t install add-ons.
But, without Home Assistant Cloud, and without 3d printing / custom printing, the only hardware available for voice assist is the mobile app, right? I have a Chromecast with remote, so could use Google Assistant, but I believe that requires HA Cloud.
/edit: just found this doc about GA + HA, it either requires HA Cloud, OR a publicly accessible HA instance with SSL. I have neither :D Will look into HA CLoud.
Yes the latest July release allows for voice assist over HTTP and internal access.
And HA blog has a post with a $13 mic which I bought and works but it needs to be plugged in and press a button to activate so rather limiting.
I agree! The pace things are moving has me very excited. I might need to brush the dust off my soldering iron so I can convert my 5+ nest speakers into something that is fully local and open source.
I set it up last month. Local voice control is not quite there yet but it looks promising. Home Assistant’s cloud assistant works really well though.
Just needs wake words now and this could be a game changer. Really looking forward to see where this is going.