• Skyler@kbin.social
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    It’s hilarious to me that South Park has been on the air long enough that they had to essentially apologize and admit they were wrong about their edgy climate change contrarianism when reality started catching up.

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    Where is the “ok, climate change is serious enough that I may need to reconsider my opposition to nuclear energy”?

    Because Greenpeace is a bit missing on this scale.

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      i still don’t get the nuclear lovers, like yeah it’s better than coal and oil but renewable are now cheaper and much faster to build. we don’t have decades to build new nuclear plants anymore.

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        It comes down to battery tech. They’re betting that the battery tech we need for renewables won’t be here before we can build more nuclear.

        I think they’re wrong. I think batteries will catch up faster than enough nuclear could come online to be useful

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        I am personally in favor of nuclear because I don’t think we have solved the problems with renewables yet, our power grids are not ready to support a 100% renewable system and as of right now, electricity grids require some stable energy. Hydro can technically fill that role but that’s restricted by geography, so in places where that is not an option, it’s a choice of fossil fuels versus nuclear. In that context, nuclear is the lesser evil by far.

        Unlike some of the other responses, I don’t think we can’t wait for energy storage solutions to be developed when we needed to be zero emissions, like, ten years ago. We need to use solutions that we know about RIGHT NOW, not years into the future.

  • kingthrillgore@kbin.social
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    More accurately:

    • Climate change isn’t real
    • Climate change isn’t real but we don’t want to change to avoid it
    • Climate change isn’t real, but the science says otherwise but that changes nothing
    • Climate change is real, but we want you to do the hard work by doing pointless things
    • Climate change is real, but its your fault and not ours because you’re poor
    • Climate change is real, and we’re now in a feedback cycle from overextended forests, permafrost releases, and overdevelopment, and doing anything impacts the most poor so there’s nothing we can do about it.
    • Climate change is real, we the wealthy and privileged did it, and there’s nothing you can do about it <-- you are here
    • Climate change is real, and we’re dipping to colonize another planet while you all die
    • The Earth is uninhabitable
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      I don’t think space colonization is feasible.

      It sounds good, but the sheer logistics of it are mind blowing. It sounds cool to terraform Mars, but that’s a multi-hundred year process that will require quadrillions of dollars. It would be cheaper and faster fixing the Earth.

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    No, it’s even worse than that. There’s a stable part of America that still refuses to believe in it. They tend to be “Christians” that are just killing time waiting for the rapture anyway. These are only tangently related, as their true religion is “I get to tell you what to do; you don’t get to tell me what you do,” which the GOO then exploits to stay rich and powerful.

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    The truly horrifying part about all of this is that the large corporations who are mostly responsible for greenhouse gas emissions are continuing to conduct business as usual. I’m doubtful anyone has the (political) will or ability to force them to stop…

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      I drive a semi truck for a living. I can imagine slightly more inconvenient alternatives to driving trucks everywhere, but trucking companies and their customers can not.

      It’s a political problem, as it should be, but the candidates that they’ve chosen to represent us aren’t the ones we need, they’re the ones that the “other side” really doesn’t want. It used to be a game, but now with the internet/TV, it’s divided into a political tribalism and has become nothing but metagaming.

      https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/fast-facts-transportation-greenhouse-gas-emissions

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        It’s called trains and barges. Long haul trucking shouldn’t exist, because everything long haul trucking does is done infinitely better by trains and barges.

        Trucks have their purpose as the last mile delivery vehicle, but they should never be shipping anything between cities.

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    If you want to see this play out in a move watch Don’t Look Up that discusses this whole thing.

    It is really sad long term :(

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    If only it were that straightforward.

    COVID illustrated that Republicans will never acknowledge the ‘oops’ phase. They will keep their foot on the accelerator even after we’ve plunged off the cliff and are in freefall.

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    In stage one we say “nothing is going to happen”

    In stage two we say “something may be going to happen but we should do nothing about it”

    In stage three we say “maybe we should do something about it, but there’s nothing we can do”

    In stage four we say “maybe there’s something we could have done, but it’s too late now”

    ~ Yes, prime minister