Rogan promoted the conspiracy theory that Epps was an “agent provocateur” for the feds, a baseless claim that has led to a defamation suit against Fox News.

Rogan promoted the conspiracy theory that Epps was an “agent provocateur” for the feds, a baseless claim that has led to a defamation suit against Fox News.

    • 8bitguy@kbin.social
      8·
      11 months ago

      Vote with your wallet. Deezer is pretty good. I switched to them when Spotify decided I needed Rogan in my life despite their algorithm undoubtedly indicating otherwise.

      • mr_sifl@lemmy.world
        51·
        11 months ago

        I switched to YouTube music and have been happy with it. The family plan is about the same price as Spotify and includes YouTube premium which has been an unexpectedly nice bonus.

        • garretble@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          11 months ago

          I’m kinda the opposite: I got YouTube Red (now Premium) to kill ads and got a music service for “free.”

          With the added bonus of no Rogan.

          • Eldritch@lemmy.world
            5·
            11 months ago

            Far far better. While still being problematic capitalist removed. Who will shamelessly chase attention clicks and money.

            There is a lot of trash on YouTube. And some of it is even monetized. You can correct me if I’m wrong. But alphabet has not paid for exclusivity or sought out any of those trash makers. The evil Google does is pursuing engagement. And the best most assured way of achieving that is through controversy and outrage. Google is generally neutrally evil. And while evil. It’s still better then the other alternatives. Though I would genuinely like to see an alternative like peer tube someday be able to supplant them.

              • Eldritch@lemmy.world
                1·
                11 months ago

                They’re not pushing it to the top of the algorithms. The algorithms are driven by engagement. And outrage is one of the most sure drivers. You’re attributing far more to Google than I think we can reasonably prove their involved in. Never attribute to malice what could be attributed to incompetence.

      • GreenCrush@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        Recommend Tidal as well if you like smaller artists. The search feature is nowhere near as good, but the curated playlists seem better to me. And you’re top 2 artists of the month, I think, get 10% of your subscription fee directly.

        • zdanger@lemmy.world
          2·
          11 months ago

          It’s really nice to be able to watch YouTube on your TV and not have to deal with ads

          • Eldritch@lemmy.world
            3·
            11 months ago

            Definitely. Between YouTube and my jellyfin server. I basically don’t watch any other streaming services or live television outside of Pluto, or the currently airing season of what we do in the shadows

      • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
        04·
        11 months ago

        I do encourage everyone to drop all Meta platforms, but generally speaking “vote with your wallet” is ineffectual.

        There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

        Edit: choosing what makes you happier is never ineffectual, but capitalism is not a democracy. You can’t “vote” out a company by choosing not to use their product, especially when that company owns many of the options or has control over the majority of the market.

        • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          41·
          11 months ago

          How is voting with your wallet ineffectual?

          There’s a confirmation bias at work here. The shitty things people didn’t pay for don’t exist.

          • Asafum@feddit.nl
            1·
            11 months ago

            Yes, but a useful “evil” thing will continue to exist because it is useful. The majority of people value something useful/convenient WAY more than they care about morals.

            OldPersonDiaperSeasoning.com won’t last because it’s simply awful, but Meta/Amazon just won’t seem to die no matter how many people hate it and choose to leave because it is useful.

          • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
            01·
            11 months ago

            I understand it’s an unpopular opinion, but you don’t become the size of Meta without leveraging significant market power.

            Consumer boycotts have their place, but rarely exercise the same level of influence over a company than other methods of activism.

            Meta can easily just buy the next most popular alternative anyway (as they have repeatedly).

      • RaoulDook@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        11 months ago

        Yep it’s totally unnecessary to pay anyone for streaming music.

        Just obtain your own MP3s of the music you prefer, and listen to those files on your device. It’s the 2000s way to music, and it’s still the best.

        Internet connectivity is not available everywhere, so you may encounter areas that streaming doesn’t work. MP3 collections don’t have that problem.

        You can also get your own Plex server or something like that if you really just want to stream your music. That’s another way to have your music on hand without bullshit subscriptions.

    • visak@lemmy.world
      1·
      11 months ago

      I canceled Spotify for Tidal when they announced the big deal for him. They are not as good as Spotify at helping me find new music, but they seem less evil. I put “Rogan” as my reason from cancelling.

    • hh93@lemm.ee
      1·
      11 months ago

      Fuck Spotify for using money to pay ANY podcast to be exclusively there.

      Podcasts are an open medium that is decentralized and allows free choice of client and they are trying to monopolize it